[time-nuts] eLORAN will be on the air GRI 99600

[paul swed]

Iridium but not available for general use.
But there are actually more proposals then GPS and Iridium.
Some might call it Piles-of-satellites. LEO stuff. $$$
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL

On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 3:48 PM Taka Kamiya via time-nuts <
time-nuts at lists.febo.com> wrote:

> Someone in this thread mentioned "at least 2 satellite time and frequency
> solutions" exists already.  I only know of GPS (GNSS) constellations.
> What's the other?
>
> ---------------------------------------
> (Mr.) Taka Kamiya
> KB4EMF / ex JF2DKG
>
>
>     On Thursday, August 6, 2020, 12:01:27 PM EDT, paul swed <
> paulswedb at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Magnus
> Its honestly by luck that I know anything. From the bits I have read Europe
> seems far closer to eLORAN then we are. Perhaps 6 months ago the US
> performed a series of tests 2 eLoran solutions and something like 6 or more
> satellite solutions. I know the old Iridium satellites were in the tests
> and some other LEO satellites.
> But thats about it.
> What we need is a cheap SDR LORAN C sniffer. Low power runs 24 X 7 and
> turns a LED on if the stations active.
> Oh well another project in the someday pile.
> Regards
> Paul
> WB8TSL
>
> On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 2:42 AM Magnus Danielson <magnus at rubidium.se>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Paul,
> >
> > I only ask as you seem to track this thing the best here on time-nuts,
> > as far as I have seen, such that it is your emails that keeps me best up
> > to date with the progress.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Magnus
> >
> > On 2020-08-05 19:21, paul swed wrote:
> > > Hi Magnus been a while since have emailed.
> > > Its one site that was a test transmitter. Its in New Jersey, USA.
> > > The goal of the testing I believe is to establish the viability of an
> > > alternate PNT reference to GPS. Additionally the ability to communicate
> > > some level of message broadcast. This should be identical to proposals
> I
> > > have heard of in Europe.
> > > But I have no direct relationship to any of this. Like you, a very
> > > interested observer and hope that eLORAN wins the battle.
> > > Unfortunately there are many alternate proposals such as using other
> > > satellites. Hmmm if I wanted to advance my career in the Air Force or
> > Space
> > > Force (Yes thats actually real now).
> > > Would I select the lowly reliable as heck eLORAN at sub $100 M/year to
> > > operate. Or the glorious space based proposals in $B region. Never mind
> > > that at least 3 countries now have demonstrated killer satellites.
> > > Sorry for that editorial.
> > > Regards
> > > Paul
> > > WB8TSL
> > >
> > > On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 11:04 AM Magnus Danielson <magnus at rubidium.se>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> Do you know that they would do test with two actual transmitter sites?
> > >>
> > >> Cheers,
> > >> Magnus
> > >>
> > >> On 2020-08-05 16:00, paul swed wrote:
> > >>> Hello to fellow time nuts.
> > >>> Warm up those old Austrons. eLORAN out of New Jersey has been on the
> > air
> > >>> intermittently prior to a test run next week. Due to the storm they
> > have
> > >>> lost power and should have it back today or tomorrow.
> > >>> The intention will be on the air operation till the 20th. That's a
> long
> > >>> run. Nice.
> > >>> Seems the Austron 2100s can be had for reasonable money these days
> > also.
> > >>> Enjoy.
> > >>> Paul
> > >>> WB8TSL
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