[time-nuts] Re: 10 MHz TCXO periodically jumping 20 mHz up and down

bill slade_bill at hotmail.com
Fri Feb 18 10:26:28 UTC 2022


Hello,
My guess is that it is a quirk of the temperature compensation network 
inside the TCXO.  I have seen similar behavior in commercial TCXOs as 
temperature changes as a result of "break points" in the compensation 
network.  It is difficult to know exactly unless it is possible to 
understand what kind of temperature compensation is used inside the 
oscillator.
Cheers
Bill

On 18/02/22 11:11, Erik Kaashoek wrote:
> During long term testing of some 10 MHz TCXO  the output frequency 
> seems to jump within one second 20 mHz ( millihertz) up in frequency 
> every 110 seconds up and after a 25 seconds, again within one second, 
> the same amount down. The noise in the frequency measurement was well 
> below 5 mHz
> In an ASCII drawing of frequency versus time this looked like: 
> ________|~~~~|___________|~~~~|________
> Sometimes the high frequency period was very short (some seconds) or 
> absent but the overall period was within 5 seconds constant
> This was tested with 4 different power supplies, although all where 
> mains connected, not yet tested with battery only, 2 different 
> counters and two different reference frequency standards.
> The TCXO was thermally shielded and testing with some cold air showed 
> a different  behavior for external temperature changes (fast jump away 
> and slow return to stable frequency)
> Also, with thermal shielding removed, touching the TCXO showed also a 
> fast jump away and slow returning to stable
> Measuring the supply voltage did not show clear changes but the used 
> voltmeter only had 4 digits resolution.
> The official spec of the TCXO is much worse so the device is well 
> within spec but I'm trying to understand why this could happen.
> Does anyone know a possible cause for this behavior?
> Could this be a small mains supply variation in a 110 seconds long cycle?
> Or what else?
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