[volt-nuts] Traveling Standards
Bob Smither
smither at c-c-i.com
Fri Aug 26 17:23:18 UTC 2011
Andreas Jahn wrote:
<snip>
> Practically I can power a LM399 with 8 NiMH cells (9,6V 2000mAH)
> for about 2 Days before I need to recharge.
Too short to mail it out and return. I think a line powered unit makes
the most sense (especially in light of your following data).
> I tried better thermal insulation but this has no significant influence.
Haven't tried it yet - thanks for the input.
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> On my LM399 with a 6,5 Digit instrument (10uV resolution)
> you will not see any thermal hysteresis.
> (except when comparing 2 of them in a higher resolution range).
This is what I gather from the data sheet.
> To the diagram: Y-axis is the output of my 5V 24 Bit ADC in mV. X-axis
> is time in minutes.
Thanks for the data. Looks encouraging.
> So I would recommend a power-up time of at least 1 hour or so.
> The instrument which is used to measure the value will need this too.
Noted. Thanks.
Here are my back of the envelope preliminary design / calculations:
Power transformer / rectifier / capacitor => ~35 Volts DC.
LM7815A => 15 Volts (regulated).
LM199A: Vout =~ 7 V.
Set Id =~ 1 mA with an Rs = 8.06 K 1% resistor from 15 V to diode.
Power on-chip heater from 15 V.
Rout =~ 1 ohm => delta Is of 7 uA causes 1ppm shift.
Require Zin of measuring VM > 10M => 0.7 uA => 0.1 ppm error.
LM7815 TC =~ 1 mV/C => 0.125 uA/C => 0.018 ppm/C.
LM7815 line regulation =~ 13 mV/V.
For 35V +/- 10% => 46 mV => 5.7 uA => 0.813 ppm.
Rs TC =~ 100 ppm/C => dIs/dT =~ 100 ppm/C => 0.1 uA/C => 0.014 ppm/C.
Rs stability =~ .5% / 1000 hrs => 5.0 uA => 0.714 ppm.
Comments - feedback?
The two largest errors (other than 20 ppm stability of the lm199ah) are
both under 1 ppm. They could be reduce further but is it worth it given
the stability of the lm199a?
Best regards,
Bob Smither
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