[volt-nuts] hp 3458a advice
m k
m1k3k1 at hotmail.com
Tue Oct 16 18:30:17 UTC 2012
I recently bought a cheap module from Australia that converts from GPIB to USB...
> To: volt-nuts at febo.com
> From: pgf at foxharp.boston.ma.us
> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 11:31:49 -0400
> Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] hp 3458a advice
>
> thanks joe, and to the other couple of people who responded privately.
> i need to figure out how much of a project i want this to be, and how
> it ranks against all the other projects that i also don't have time
> for. :-)
>
> i have the full users manual (two copies!), but i don't have anything
> else that speaks GPIB. i'll play with some of the front panel
> commands you've suggested, while i think about what to do. thanks!
>
> paul
>
> j. l. trantham wrote:
> > Paul,
> >
> > First, the meter is worth something if nothing other than parts. It is
> > quite a meter and you should at least open it up and see what it might take
> > to get it operational again. I am sure there are folks on this list
> > (including me) that would love to have the meter if you want to part with
> > it.
> >
> > It is still in production, still supported and you can get the manuals from
> > the Agilent website. The assembly level repair manual should be able to
> > give you an idea of where the problem is. The CLIP is available and you
> > might be able to find the specific part (or parts) that need replacing.
> >
> > I don't know of a way to get the serial number if there is no sticker on the
> > back. You can open it and look at the date codes on the chips, etc., and
> > get an idea of when it was manufactured.
> >
> > You can enter some queries from the front panel to get some other
> > information. I can't remember what they all are but if they end in a '?',
> > it will return the data. Things like 'OPT?' will tell what options are
> > installed, '1' being extended memory and '2' being the high stability
> > reference. You can tell how many times it was CAL'd, what version of
> > firmware it has, etc. I think version 9 is the latest and version 8 is 'out
> > there' somewhere, IIRC. If you just start with shift A and scroll down the
> > list, you can see what questions you can ask.
> >
> > Agilent offers a 'repair service' for about $1900 (IIRC) that will put it
> > back in operational condition, up to specs, and with a fresh calibration.
> > However, I don't know if that service requires a serial number or not.
> >
> > There is a guy at the Agilent calibration center in Colorado, Gary Bierman,
> > and he is 'the man' when it comes to that meter. I have spoken with him in
> > the past about other 3458A questions and he was most helpful. I suspect he
> > would be more than willing to talk to you about the meter and what it might
> > take to get it up and running.
> >
> > I think his contact information is in the archives if you would like to
> > pursue that.
> >
> > Good luck.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: volt-nuts-bounces at febo.com [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces at febo.com] On
> > Behalf Of Paul Fox
> > Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 9:50 AM
> > To: Discussion of precise voltage measurement
> > Subject: [volt-nuts] hp 3458a advice
> >
> > hi --
> >
> > i'm not a volt-nuts regular, and not even a precision measurement nut
> > at all, but given past discussion in the list archives, i think you
> > folks might be able to help.
> >
> > i was recently given an HP 3458a multimeter. the donor thought it
> > worked when he last used it, but that was quite a long time ago, and i
> > think it was stored in an attic for some time, so i'm not too
> > surprised that it now doesn't pass self tests. :-/ he mainly wanted
> > it out of his house, along with a bunch of other vintage (sadly mostly
> > non-working) equipment he'd accumulated over the years.
> >
> > the self-test error is:
> > ERRSTR 204, "Hardware Failure -- Flatness DAC Convergence: 198"
> >
> > judging from past list traffic, repairs on these units are
> > expensive, and it would still need recalibration to be useful, and
> > there are may be other parts (eeproms?) that may not be good
> > any more. i'm not really interested in pursuing any of this
> > myself.
> >
> > what's worse is that the unit doesn't have a serial number. (i assume
> > the s/n would normally be obvious on the rear of the unit.) it bears a
> > sticker on the back that says "MTG PROTO 27". i think the unit came
> > from a place that themselves produced reference standards, and they
> > may have gotten a very early model from HP to work with. that's
> > conjecture. i haven't opened the unit, so i don't know if there are
> > other clues to its age inside.
> >
> > so: is this machine useful to anyone? given the error message above,
> > are there any measurements at all that it might still get correct, in
> > it's current state?
> >
> > paul
> > =---------------------
> > paul fox, pgf at foxharp.boston.ma.us (arlington, ma, where it's 63.1 degrees)
> >
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> =---------------------
> paul fox, pgf at foxharp.boston.ma.us (arlington, ma, where it's 48.4 degrees)
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