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N8GA and KiwiSDRs

JB
Jim Bacher, WB8VSU
Sat, Feb 24, 2024 3:30 AM

At the meeting today we discussed the KiwiSDRs installed at the N8GA
contest site.

If you go to this website: http://kiwisdr.com/public/

You can find all of the KiwiSDRs around the world. If you search for: N8GA
you will find the ones at the contest site.

Jim

At the meeting today we discussed the KiwiSDRs installed at the N8GA contest site. If you go to this website: http://kiwisdr.com/public/ You can find all of the KiwiSDRs around the world. If you search for: N8GA you will find the ones at the contest site. Jim
JM
Joseph Muchnij
Sat, Feb 24, 2024 3:09 PM

Thank You

Joe Muchnij

On Feb 23, 2024, at 10:30 PM, Jim Bacher, WB8VSU via mvus-list mvus-list@lists.febo.com wrote:

At the meeting today we discussed the KiwiSDRs installed at the N8GA contest site.

If you go to this website: http://kiwisdr.com/public/

You can find all of the KiwiSDRs around the world. If you search for: N8GA you will find the ones at the contest site.

Jim


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Thank You Joe Muchnij > On Feb 23, 2024, at 10:30 PM, Jim Bacher, WB8VSU via mvus-list <mvus-list@lists.febo.com> wrote: > > At the meeting today we discussed the KiwiSDRs installed at the N8GA contest site. > > If you go to this website: http://kiwisdr.com/public/ > > You can find all of the KiwiSDRs around the world. If you search for: N8GA you will find the ones at the contest site. > > Jim > _______________________________________________ > mvus-list mailing list -- mvus-list@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe send an email to mvus-list-leave@lists.febo.com
JA
John Ackermann N8UR
Sat, Feb 24, 2024 3:53 PM

If you want to go to the N8GA KiwiSDRs directly, you can do:

http://hill.n8ga.org:8073

(note that "https:" won't work)

Each of the three Kiwis can have up to 8 users at a time.  However, only
the first two users on each one get the full spectrum waterfall display.
Additional users have all the features of the receiver, but they only
get an audio spectrum display.

If you connect to the first Kiwi and it's full, you'll be automatically
redirected to the second, and if that's full, to the third.  If you get
the audio-only display, you can go directly to the second Kiwi by
changing the end of the URL above from "8073" to "8074", or the third by
changing it to "8075".

Depending on how busy things get, I may put timeouts on one or more of
the receivers to keep people from sitting there all day while inactive.
If I do, there will be a password available for friends and family to
bypass that.

We currently have a bad noise problem in the LF/MF frequency range, and
a less-bad one up around 25 - 30 MHz.  I'm going to be troubleshooting
those.  The low frequency one is new, so hopefully it will be easy to
isolate.

73,
John

On 2/23/24 22:30, Jim Bacher, WB8VSU via mvus-list wrote:

At the meeting today we discussed the KiwiSDRs installed at the N8GA
contest site.

If you go to this website: http://kiwisdr.com/public/

You can find all of the KiwiSDRs around the world. If you search for:
N8GA you will find the ones at the contest site.

Jim


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If you want to go to the N8GA KiwiSDRs directly, you can do: http://hill.n8ga.org:8073 (note that "https:" won't work) Each of the three Kiwis can have up to 8 users at a time. However, only the first two users on each one get the full spectrum waterfall display. Additional users have all the features of the receiver, but they only get an audio spectrum display. If you connect to the first Kiwi and it's full, you'll be automatically redirected to the second, and if that's full, to the third. If you get the audio-only display, you can go directly to the second Kiwi by changing the end of the URL above from "8073" to "8074", or the third by changing it to "8075". Depending on how busy things get, I may put timeouts on one or more of the receivers to keep people from sitting there all day while inactive. If I do, there will be a password available for friends and family to bypass that. We currently have a bad noise problem in the LF/MF frequency range, and a less-bad one up around 25 - 30 MHz. I'm going to be troubleshooting those. The low frequency one is new, so hopefully it will be easy to isolate. 73, John ---- On 2/23/24 22:30, Jim Bacher, WB8VSU via mvus-list wrote: > At the meeting today we discussed the KiwiSDRs installed at the N8GA > contest site. > > If you go to this website: http://kiwisdr.com/public/ > > You can find all of the KiwiSDRs around the world. If you search for: > N8GA you will find the ones at the contest site. > > Jim > _______________________________________________ > mvus-list mailing list -- mvus-list@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe send an email to mvus-list-leave@lists.febo.com
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Andrew Anderson
Mon, Feb 26, 2024 12:28 PM

I have found SDRs to be a great tool to have in your pocket. At my location I suffer from extreme power line noise on HF. Especially on 75 meters. I use one of two SDRs in Pennsylvania when I check in to the OSSBN. However.... there is a huge caveat when using them. Latency. Depending on the site you connect to there is a one to five second delay from real time. That one second delay can be a deal breaker in a contest. On the OSSBN I have to anticipate when the net control is going to stop transmitting ahead of time and key up my transmitter (at home. I can transmit just fine. I can't HEAR anything). The longer the delay, the tougher it will be to make that contact in a contest. It's tough enough to deal with in a traffic net, but in a contest? That latency might be the difference in making or not making that contact. Keep that in mind when you connect to one.

Sam N8VES

On Saturday, February 24, 2024 at 10:53:55 AM EST, John Ackermann N8UR via mvus-list <mvus-list@lists.febo.com> wrote:  

If you want to go to the N8GA KiwiSDRs directly, you can do:

http://hill.n8ga.org:8073

(note that "https:" won't work)

Each of the three Kiwis can have up to 8 users at a time.  However, only
the first two users on each one get the full spectrum waterfall display.
  Additional users have all the features of the receiver, but they only
get an audio spectrum display.

If you connect to the first Kiwi and it's full, you'll be automatically
redirected to the second, and if that's full, to the third.  If you get
the audio-only display, you can go directly to the second Kiwi by
changing the end of the URL above from "8073" to "8074", or the third by
changing it to "8075".

Depending on how busy things get, I may put timeouts on one or more of
the receivers to keep people from sitting there all day while inactive.
If I do, there will be a password available for friends and family to
bypass that.

We currently have a bad noise problem in the LF/MF frequency range, and
a less-bad one up around 25 - 30 MHz.  I'm going to be troubleshooting
those.  The low frequency one is new, so hopefully it will be easy to
isolate.

73,
John

On 2/23/24 22:30, Jim Bacher, WB8VSU via mvus-list wrote:

At the meeting today we discussed the KiwiSDRs installed at the N8GA
contest site.

If you go to this website: http://kiwisdr.com/public/

You can find all of the KiwiSDRs around the world. If you search for:
N8GA you will find the ones at the contest site.

Jim


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I have found SDRs to be a great tool to have in your pocket. At my location I suffer from extreme power line noise on HF. Especially on 75 meters. I use one of two SDRs in Pennsylvania when I check in to the OSSBN. However.... there is a huge caveat when using them. Latency. Depending on the site you connect to there is a one to five second delay from real time. That one second delay can be a deal breaker in a contest. On the OSSBN I have to anticipate when the net control is going to stop transmitting ahead of time and key up my transmitter (at home. I can transmit just fine. I can't HEAR anything). The longer the delay, the tougher it will be to make that contact in a contest. It's tough enough to deal with in a traffic net, but in a contest? That latency might be the difference in making or not making that contact. Keep that in mind when you connect to one. Sam N8VES On Saturday, February 24, 2024 at 10:53:55 AM EST, John Ackermann N8UR via mvus-list <mvus-list@lists.febo.com> wrote: If you want to go to the N8GA KiwiSDRs directly, you can do: http://hill.n8ga.org:8073 (note that "https:" won't work) Each of the three Kiwis can have up to 8 users at a time.  However, only the first two users on each one get the full spectrum waterfall display.   Additional users have all the features of the receiver, but they only get an audio spectrum display. If you connect to the first Kiwi and it's full, you'll be automatically redirected to the second, and if that's full, to the third.  If you get the audio-only display, you can go directly to the second Kiwi by changing the end of the URL above from "8073" to "8074", or the third by changing it to "8075". Depending on how busy things get, I may put timeouts on one or more of the receivers to keep people from sitting there all day while inactive. If I do, there will be a password available for friends and family to bypass that. We currently have a bad noise problem in the LF/MF frequency range, and a less-bad one up around 25 - 30 MHz.  I'm going to be troubleshooting those.  The low frequency one is new, so hopefully it will be easy to isolate. 73, John ---- On 2/23/24 22:30, Jim Bacher, WB8VSU via mvus-list wrote: > At the meeting today we discussed the KiwiSDRs installed at the N8GA > contest site. > > If you go to this website: http://kiwisdr.com/public/ > > You can find all of the KiwiSDRs around the world. If you search for: > N8GA you will find the ones at the contest site. > > Jim > _______________________________________________ > mvus-list mailing list -- mvus-list@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe send an email to mvus-list-leave@lists.febo.com _______________________________________________ mvus-list mailing list -- mvus-list@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe send an email to mvus-list-leave@lists.febo.com
JA
John Ackermann N8UR
Mon, Feb 26, 2024 11:29 PM

Hi Sam --

Yes, the latency is a possible problem.  There's a built-in latency in
the signal processing of the radio/computer but at least that's pretty
constant.  The network delays though can vary all over the place.

The KiwiSDR system supports a Time Delay of Arrival mechanism where a
user can log into multiple Kiwis at different locations and use the time
differences for direction finding.  The Kiwis have a GPS so have good
time sync, and there must be same way they can transmit timestamps to
allow that comparison to work despite the varying network delays.

73,
John

On 2/26/24 07:28, Andrew Anderson wrote:

I have found SDRs to be a great tool to have in your pocket. At my
location I suffer from extreme power line noise on HF. Especially on 75
meters. I use one of two SDRs in Pennsylvania when I check in to the
OSSBN. However.... there is a huge caveat when using them. Latency.
Depending on the site you connect to there is a one to five second delay
from real time. That one second delay can be a deal breaker in a
contest. On the OSSBN I have to anticipate when the net control is going
to stop transmitting ahead of time and key up my transmitter (at home. I
can transmit just fine. I can't HEAR anything). The longer the delay,
the tougher it will be to make that contact in a contest. It's tough
enough to deal with in a traffic net, but in a contest? That latency
might be the difference in making or not making that contact. Keep that
in mind when you connect to one.

Sam N8VES

On Saturday, February 24, 2024 at 10:53:55 AM EST, John Ackermann N8UR
via mvus-list mvus-list@lists.febo.com wrote:

If you want to go to the N8GA KiwiSDRs directly, you can do:

http://hill.n8ga.org:8073 http://hill.n8ga.org:8073

(note that "https:" won't work)

Each of the three Kiwis can have up to 8 users at a time.  However, only
the first two users on each one get the full spectrum waterfall display.
  Additional users have all the features of the receiver, but they only
get an audio spectrum display.

If you connect to the first Kiwi and it's full, you'll be automatically
redirected to the second, and if that's full, to the third.  If you get
the audio-only display, you can go directly to the second Kiwi by
changing the end of the URL above from "8073" to "8074", or the third by
changing it to "8075".

Depending on how busy things get, I may put timeouts on one or more of
the receivers to keep people from sitting there all day while inactive.
If I do, there will be a password available for friends and family to
bypass that.

We currently have a bad noise problem in the LF/MF frequency range, and
a less-bad one up around 25 - 30 MHz.  I'm going to be troubleshooting
those.  The low frequency one is new, so hopefully it will be easy to
isolate.

73,
John

On 2/23/24 22:30, Jim Bacher, WB8VSU via mvus-list wrote:

At the meeting today we discussed the KiwiSDRs installed at the N8GA
contest site.

If you go to this website: http://kiwisdr.com/public/
http://kiwisdr.com/public/

You can find all of the KiwiSDRs around the world. If you search for:
N8GA you will find the ones at the contest site.

Jim


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Hi Sam -- Yes, the latency is a possible problem. There's a built-in latency in the signal processing of the radio/computer but at least that's pretty constant. The network delays though can vary all over the place. The KiwiSDR system supports a Time Delay of Arrival mechanism where a user can log into multiple Kiwis at different locations and use the time differences for direction finding. The Kiwis have a GPS so have good time sync, and there must be same way they can transmit timestamps to allow that comparison to work despite the varying network delays. 73, John ---- On 2/26/24 07:28, Andrew Anderson wrote: > I have found SDRs to be a great tool to have in your pocket. At my > location I suffer from extreme power line noise on HF. Especially on 75 > meters. I use one of two SDRs in Pennsylvania when I check in to the > OSSBN. However.... there is a huge caveat when using them. Latency. > Depending on the site you connect to there is a one to five second delay > from real time. That one second delay can be a deal breaker in a > contest. On the OSSBN I have to anticipate when the net control is going > to stop transmitting ahead of time and key up my transmitter (at home. I > can transmit just fine. I can't HEAR anything). The longer the delay, > the tougher it will be to make that contact in a contest. It's tough > enough to deal with in a traffic net, but in a contest? That latency > might be the difference in making or not making that contact. Keep that > in mind when you connect to one. > > Sam N8VES > > On Saturday, February 24, 2024 at 10:53:55 AM EST, John Ackermann N8UR > via mvus-list <mvus-list@lists.febo.com> wrote: > > > If you want to go to the N8GA KiwiSDRs directly, you can do: > > http://hill.n8ga.org:8073 <http://hill.n8ga.org:8073> > > (note that "https:" won't work) > > Each of the three Kiwis can have up to 8 users at a time.  However, only > the first two users on each one get the full spectrum waterfall display. >   Additional users have all the features of the receiver, but they only > get an audio spectrum display. > > If you connect to the first Kiwi and it's full, you'll be automatically > redirected to the second, and if that's full, to the third.  If you get > the audio-only display, you can go directly to the second Kiwi by > changing the end of the URL above from "8073" to "8074", or the third by > changing it to "8075". > > Depending on how busy things get, I may put timeouts on one or more of > the receivers to keep people from sitting there all day while inactive. > If I do, there will be a password available for friends and family to > bypass that. > > We currently have a bad noise problem in the LF/MF frequency range, and > a less-bad one up around 25 - 30 MHz.  I'm going to be troubleshooting > those.  The low frequency one is new, so hopefully it will be easy to > isolate. > > 73, > John > ---- > > > On 2/23/24 22:30, Jim Bacher, WB8VSU via mvus-list wrote: > > At the meeting today we discussed the KiwiSDRs installed at the N8GA > > contest site. > > > > If you go to this website: http://kiwisdr.com/public/ > <http://kiwisdr.com/public/> > > > > You can find all of the KiwiSDRs around the world. If you search for: > > N8GA you will find the ones at the contest site. > > > > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > > mvus-list mailing list -- mvus-list@lists.febo.com > <mailto:mvus-list@lists.febo.com> > > To unsubscribe send an email to mvus-list-leave@lists.febo.com > <mailto:mvus-list-leave@lists.febo.com> > > _______________________________________________ > mvus-list mailing list -- mvus-list@lists.febo.com > <mailto:mvus-list@lists.febo.com> > To unsubscribe send an email to mvus-list-leave@lists.febo.com > <mailto:mvus-list-leave@lists.febo.com>