[time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 31, Issue 85

Rob Kimberley rk at timing-consultants.com
Wed Feb 28 18:24:32 UTC 2007


I'm in process of scanning 1210D and will complete it tonight and post a
link.

Cheers

Rob Kimberley 

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Behalf Of Lee-Bradshaw
Sent: 28 February 2007 14:16
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Subject: Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 31, Issue 85

On Tuesday 27 February 2007 11:00 am, time-nuts-request at febo.com wrote:
John,
I have the Austron 1210-D manual. 
Who would have the time to scan the manual for posting.

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>    4. Re: Austron 1201-D (Rob Kimberley)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 08:31:02 -0500
> From: John Ackermann N8UR <jra at febo.com>
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Austron 1201-D
> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
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> Rob, I've been looking for the 1210D manual as well.  Do you have more 
> than one copy?  If not, perhaps we can arrange a scanning party...
>
> John
> ----
>
> Rob Kimberley wrote:
> > Had,
> >
> > Do you mean 1210D? If so, the answer is yes. About an inch thick 
> > with several fold out drawings. I'm in UK. Will cost approx ?18 
> > (~$35US) to air mail (untracked). International "Signed for" tracked 
> > options would be more expensive.
> >
> > Rob Kimberley
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: time-nuts-bounces at febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces at febo.com] 
> > On Behalf Of Had
> > Sent: 27 February 2007 00:46
> > To: time-nuts-febo.com
> > Subject: [time-nuts] Austron 1201-D
> >
> >
> >
> > Greetings nuts,
> >
> > Would anyone have a manual for a Austron 1201-D Clock. Any format or 
> > I can scan.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Hadley, K7MLR
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 09:13:33 -0500
> From: "Mike Feher" <mfeher at eozinc.com>
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Austron 1201-D
> To: "'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'"
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> I can use one also as I have a 1210D. Earlier inquiries for a manual 
> never received a response. Regards - Mike
>
>
> Mike B. Feher, N4FS
> 89 Arnold Blvd.
> Howell, NJ, 07731
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: time-nuts-bounces at febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces at febo.com] 
> On Behalf Of John Ackermann N8UR
> Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 8:31 AM
> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Austron 1201-D
>
> Rob, I've been looking for the 1210D manual as well.  Do you have more 
> than one copy?  If not, perhaps we can arrange a scanning party...
>
> John
> ----
>
> Rob Kimberley wrote:
> > Had,
> >
> > Do you mean 1210D? If so, the answer is yes. About an inch thick 
> > with several fold out drawings. I'm in UK. Will cost approx ?18 
> > (~$35US) to
>
> air
>
> > mail (untracked). International "Signed for" tracked options would 
> > be
>
> more
>
> > expensive.
> >
> > Rob Kimberley
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: time-nuts-bounces at febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces at febo.com]
>
> On
>
> > Behalf Of Had
> > Sent: 27 February 2007 00:46
> > To: time-nuts-febo.com
> > Subject: [time-nuts] Austron 1201-D
> >
> >
> >
> > Greetings nuts,
> >
> > Would anyone have a manual for a Austron 1201-D Clock. Any format or 
> > I
>
> can
>
> > scan.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Hadley, K7MLR
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free
>
> State,
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:14:46 +0100
> From: "Ulrich Bangert" <df6jb at ulrich-bangert.de>
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Linux code for Prologix GPIB/USB
> To: "'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'"
> 	<time-nuts at febo.com>
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> Hal,
>
> no matter whether you use my stuff or not: The very first thing you 
> should do after opening the serial port is to transmit a ++auto 0 to 
> hinder the interface from sending something own its own. My own 
> internal stuff reads as follows:
>
>       if QCCom32.Opened then
>       begin;
>         Debugform.Console.WriteString('Port has been opened'+#13+#10);
>         Qccom32.Flush;
>         sendstring:='++auto 0'+#13+#10;
>         sendflag:=true;
>         autoenabled:=False;
>         repeat
>           sleep(10);
>           application.ProcessMessages;
>         until sendflag=false;
>         debugform.Console.WriteString('Send ++auto 0 command'+#13+#10);
>         sendstring:='++ver'+#13+#10;
>         sendflag:=true;
>         repeat
>           sleep(10);
>           application.ProcessMessages;
>         until sendflag=false;
>         debugform.Console.WriteString('Send ++ver command'+#13+#10);
>         j:=0;
>         repeat
>           inc(j);
>           sleep(100);
>         until dataavailable or (j>=10);
>         if dataavailable then
>         begin;
>           PLfound:=(pos('GPIB-USB',Valuebuffer)<>0);
>           DataAvailable:=False;
>         end;
>
> Best regards
> Ulrich Bangert
>
> > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: time-nuts-bounces at febo.com
> > [mailto:time-nuts-bounces at febo.com] Im Auftrag von Hal Murray
> > Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. Februar 2007 04:32
> > An: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
> > Betreff: Re: [time-nuts] Linux code for Prologix GPIB/USB
> >
> > > At the end of the USB cable there is a FTDI chip that (in
> >
> > conjunction
> >
> > > with the appropiate driver) emulates a serial port. This
> >
> > serial port
> >
> > > in turn is connected to the serial port of an AVR type of 
> > > microcontroller. Because this microcontroller expects a certain 
> > > setting of serial transmission parameters you have to set them 
> > > correct, otherwise it will not understand your commands.
> >
> > Thanks.  Makes sense, I guess.  I was assuming they had reprogrammed 
> > the FTDI chip rather than adding another CPU.  (I'm not sure why.  
> > The AVR is pretty
> > obvious.)
> >
> > There is a layer of stuff I haven't sorted out yet.  It's all 
> > tangled up in the GPIB device being at the far end of a serial (USB 
> > or
> > RS-232) string.  The
> > Prologix defaults to automagiclly reading data when it becomes 
> > available and sending it up to the kernel rather than waiting for 
> > you to explicitly poll it.
> >
> > I see two cases where that might get confusing.  One is when you 
> > send it a command at about the time it sends you something.  You 
> > can't tell if the data you get arrived before or after your command.
> >
> > My normal command sequence is running in single cycle mode so it's 
> > easy to stay in lock step once you get started.  So far, I haven't 
> > had any troubles getting through initialization, but I'll bet my 
> > code would screwup if it got delayed for long enough in the right 
> > places.
> >
> > The other case is if you are talking to several devices.
> > Again, there is a
> > race as you switch devices.  You can't tell if the string arrived 
> > before or after you switched.  I think this case can be avoided by 
> > switching to a device that doesn't exist, checking for input, then 
> > switching to the new device.  It probably requires some pauses in 
> > the right place.
> >
> > > I have only very limited Linux experience and even less
> >
> > with Windows
> >
> > > emulation under Linux.
> >
> > You probably know more about Linux than I do about Windows.
> >
> > I was just looking for a subroutine package rather than a GUI/IDE.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:21:45 -0000
> From: "Rob Kimberley" <rk at timing-consultants.com>
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Austron 1201-D
> To: "'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'"
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> In view of the responses to the original post, I'll take the bull by 
> the horns and scan it for the group. Will take me a while, so make 
> yourselves a coffee and put your feet up.....
>
> :-)
>
> Rob
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: time-nuts-bounces at febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces at febo.com] 
> On Behalf Of John Ackermann N8UR
> Sent: 27 February 2007 13:31
> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Austron 1201-D
>
> Rob, I've been looking for the 1210D manual as well.  Do you have more 
> than one copy?  If not, perhaps we can arrange a scanning party...
>
> John
> ----
>
> Rob Kimberley wrote:
> > Had,
> >
> > Do you mean 1210D? If so, the answer is yes. About an inch thick 
> > with several fold out drawings. I'm in UK. Will cost approx ?18 
> > (~$35US) to air mail (untracked). International "Signed for" tracked 
> > options would be more expensive.
> >
> > Rob Kimberley
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: time-nuts-bounces at febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces at febo.com]
> > On Behalf Of Had
> > Sent: 27 February 2007 00:46
> > To: time-nuts-febo.com
> > Subject: [time-nuts] Austron 1201-D
> >
> >
> >
> > Greetings nuts,
> >
> > Would anyone have a manual for a Austron 1201-D Clock. Any format or 
> > I can scan.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Hadley, K7MLR
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free 
> > State, the right of the people to keep and bare Arms, shall not be
>
> infringed.
>
> > This message (including any attachments) contains confidential 
> > information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is 
> > protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should 
> > delete this message. Any disclosure, copying, or distribution of 
> > this message, or the taking of any action based on it, is strictly
prohibited.
> >
> >
> >
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