[time-nuts] Cs stability

Rob Kimberley rk at timing-consultants.com
Tue Jul 17 13:21:42 UTC 2007


I guess I'm a bit out of date!

:-)

Rob 

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Sent: 17 July 2007 14:13
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Cs stability

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"Achieved:  Acceleration sensitivities better than 2E-12/g"

http://www.zyfer.com/briefings/telecom/qz%20low-g%20brfg%20olie%204-04.pdf

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   Björn

On Tue, July 17, 2007 14:40, Rob Kimberley said:
> Another way that has been incorporated successfully to combat g 
> sensitivity are accelerometers mounted on each of the x, y, Z axes of 
> the crystal.
> Combining this with spring mounts works well. g sensitivities down to 
> e-10 per g  can be achieved.
>
> Rob K
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of SAIDJACK at aol.com
> Sent: 17 July 2007 06:14
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> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Cs stability
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> In a message dated 7/16/2007 12:10:54 Pacific Daylight Time, 
> SAIDJACK at aol.com writes:
>
>>For  example tilting the Cs unit by 90 degrees will typically give an 
>>error
>
>>of about 1E-09 or so.
>
>>It would take some time for the  control loops to compensate for this
> error.
>
>
>
> Hi guys,
>
> I did tilt my 4050 when I first installed the unit, that number is 
> from my memory. Notice that Magnus is right of course, the Cs will 
> compensate the tilt,  given enough time to do so. I did not mean that 
> the 1E-09 error will stay permanent of course, as I said in the 
> follow-on sentence.
>
> Also the 4050 is not very well temperature compensated compared to 
> modern units, I was not impressed when I saw the FTS tempco 
> specifications. A good GPSDO can outperform the 4050.
>
> I have a military OCXO sample (new product) that is supposed to be 
> "g-insensitive" and even that one has about E-09 frequency shift per 
> 90 degrees  tilt.
>
> One of the only ways to get around that is to use three crystals in 
> series, with the three crystals oriented in the the XYZ axis, so their  
> errors compensate out.
>
> Vibration is also a big enemy of crystal oscillators of course.
>
> bye,
> Said
>
>
>
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