[time-nuts] Question for the cesium nuts.

[Rob Kimberley]

Interesting.. Thought India was OK, and OCXOs are usually fine as
unrestricted. Even Rb or Cs should have been OK with an End User statement.
Maybe the Indian customer was selling on to somewhere restricted (not
unheard of!!)

Rob 

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces at febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces at febo.com] On
Behalf Of Robert Atkinson
Sent: 19 March 2007 09:10
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Question for the cesium nuts.

Hi,
I think you would find it surprising what is still restricted. While
searching for data on the FTS/Datron/Symmetricom 1000B I discovered that
Datron/Symmetricom got hammered for trying to export a couple of OXCO's to
India. I can't find the link at the moment but they settled at $35,000.
A lot of telecom stuff like fibre coupled lasers are still restricted so are
some capacitors (low inductance high current) and trigger devices. I friend
of mine had a visit from the US authorities (we are in the UK) for listing a
modern military whip antenna on eBay. 

Robert.

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces at febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces at febo.com] On
Behalf Of Hal Murray
Sent: 18 March 2007 04:56
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Question for the cesium nuts.


>> Are there some funny accounting rules screwing things up?
> Not accounting rules as you meant them, but rather end use rules.

> It takes someone with a functioning brain to figure out what the 
> different pieces of equipment are, and to make sure that the end use 
> restrictions are honored.  It is far easier to drive over the stuff 
> with a dozer, and render it inert than it is to propagate the 
> necessary paper chain... or so the DRMO says.

I'm still somewhat (but not very) surprised that they aren't outsourcing the
whole mess or something like that.

I assume "end use rules" means don't send fancy gear to Iran and North Korea
etc.  Is there a simple list of what is/isn't OK to ship to anybody?  If a
box sells for $100, it can't be a big deal to have somebody check each item
against a known-OK list.  If the penalties are real nasty, check it twice.

The stuff you can't ship to bad guys is probably worth more so they would be
motivated to find it.




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