[time-nuts] Test equipment-level phase noise PLLs
jmiles at pop.net
Tue Jul 22 19:30:00 EDT 2008
I've played with the Hittite chips before and obtained PN results in the
same ballpark (see http://www.ke5fx.com/hpll.htm ), but at 8 GHz rather than
6 GHz. To save further head-scratching, the figure of merit on these chips
works like this:
In-band phase noise in dBc/Hz = FOM + 10*log(Fcomp) + 20*log(N)
This is the best-case noise level that you will get assuming a
perfectly-clean reference and no VCO noise contribution. As usual,
Hittite's less-than-ideal data sheet doesn't make that relationship clear.
Specifically, the 5.8-GHz integer-N plot in figure 1 appear to have been
made with a 50 MHz comparison frequency and N=116. -107 dBc/Hz - 77 - 41
= -225 dBc/Hz.
>From that relationship, you can see that minimizing N is the most important
thing you can do. Good-quality signal generators work on the basis of
minimizing N at all costs. Fractional techniques are common but the
ultimate performance still comes from cascaded or nested synthesis stages
with an integer-N output loop.
The HP 8672/8673 family, for instance, uses a comparison frequency (really a
harmonic sampler drive signal) in the 200 MHz neighborhood. They still
don't achieve inband PN better than about -100 dBc/Hz, because the earlier
stages that generate the Fcomp signal are relatively noisy. It's safe to
say that your R&S synthesizer uses a similarly-low N factor, cleaner
reference synthesizers, and a cleaner output loop.
The easy way to get a few more dB out of the Hittite chip would be to run
with an Fcomp in the 100 MHz vicinity instead of 50 MHz. It is rated for
Fcomp <= 140 MHz in the (quieter) integer-N mode.
-- john, KE5FX
> -----Original Message-----
> From: time-nuts-bounces at febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces at febo.com]On
> Behalf Of Matt Ettus
> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 1:16 PM
> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
> Subject: [time-nuts] Test equipment-level phase noise PLLs
> In looking into extremely low phase noise synthesizers, I have come
> across the new HMC700LP4 chip from hittite, which seems to have the
> best figure of merit I have found, -227 dBm/Hz. That gives you
> -107dBc/Hz at 20 kHz offset at 6 GHz according to the datasheets.
> That sounds amazingly good, but my R+S signal generator does better.
> Do they use a different sort of architecture? Do they not use
> conventional dividers? Some other sort of phase detector?
More information about the time-nuts