[time-nuts] US ebay sellers who won't ship outside the US

Steve Rooke sar10538 at gmail.com
Fri Jul 17 08:14:04 UTC 2009


Well I guess it's a good job that other countries don't hide behind a
whole lot of excuses and BS when someone in the US wants to buy things
from them or you guys would feel pretty hard done by too. Sounds like
it's mostly just a case of it's too hard I can't be bothered to me.
Seems that anything and everything comes under the heading of sales of
arms to a lot of sellers on ePay. Most can't even be bothered to fill
in a customs form to send the item or even work out how to. Let's face
it, it's so much easier to send the item to the lower 48 States. Makes
me wonder how I can buy so called sensitive stuff from China that most
probably came from the US but supposedly I can't by it direct from the
US. Seems like dual standards here. Is someone in Government getting a
back-hander from the China seller so that they can get the gear out of
the US. Now considering how protective China is about itself, you
would think that they would have a whole lot of red-tape about sending
sensitive items out of their country but that does not seem to be the
case. Stop hiding behind a whole lot of excuses and get over it. If
the system over there is so busted fix it, your supposed to be a
democracy, well vote to get it fixed and stop keeping on regurgitating
the same crap system that seems to get more and more anally retentive.
We are all on this planet together. We all need to live together.
Let's try and all work together and not start some exclusive club that
only some can join.

Rant off.

I love you guys really!

73,
Steve

2009/7/17 phil <fortime at bellsouth.net>:
> A few other reasons that come into play for not shipping outside of USA,
>
> (1) With respect to items a seller may purchase from Federal auctions or a
> company such as Honeywell that is under federal contract, the "general"
> terms of the sale/auction is that the items will not be exported. Certainly,
> some items could/would fall into the "dual-use" category. I doubt a kitchen
> table would be "dual-use" unless you assemble bombs on it, yet the terms of
> some auctions are explicit, no exporting.
>
> (2) What stops the most "small" sellers from shipping out of the US is the
> financial risk.
> In reading some of the forums on eBay, sellers are getting scammed in
> numerous ways. You have PayPal that seems to side with the purchaser
> regardless of circumstances. If an item is returned to seller for any reason
> the seller will at least loose the shipping cost, possibly fees, and with
> extreme luck get the item back rather than a box of rocks.
>
> Should a buyer tell PayPal an item is counterfeit, PayPal will often tell
> the buyer to destroy the unit/item and refund buyer everything. A charge
> back is issued to the seller and the seller is out all cost, fees, shipping,
> and DOES NOT get the item back.
>
> If you notice, some of the sellers that do export require an irrevocable
> form of payment (non PayPal) and stipulate no warranty or returns when
> shipped out of the USA.
>
> (3) Excessive shipping cost. Shipping cost on a heavy item to Europe can be
> in the hundreds of dollars. PayPal now requires a signature on anything
> 250.00 US or more and I understand that overseas signature can only be had
> with air shipping.
>
> (4) Not only the financial risk and excessive shipping cost, the additional
> paperwork, extra PayPal fees to convert the foreign currency to dollars make
> it not worth the effort.
>
> A seller can sell/ship with relative safety state to state and have some
> assurance of legal protections, virtually no protections selling/shipping
> out of the US.
>
> A thought
>
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