[time-nuts] Kindle and HP service manuals ?

Tue May 12 16:24:09 UTC 2009

I have the Kindle2 but have not taken any pdf files  across...

In order to "see" pdf's on a K2...   You have  to send them thru 
Amazon.com, where they will be "converted" and sent along to  the K2...

Unlike buying a book where there is no download (3G)  charge...  There is a 
charge for the transmission of pdf and Word  docs.

FYI, the NEWEST Kindle, the KindleDX, with a 9.7 inch screen,  will become 
available in the near future.  I don't know if it will take  pdf's directly 
thru the USB port.  Google search will give you the latest  "intel!"

Page changes on the K2 are quite fast...   Complete  book downloads happen
in less than a minute...  Great out in the  sunlight...   1.5Gb storage...
Good battery life...    270K+ books  available...   Books can be ordered 
direct from the K2 screen, or via  your normal computer...  MP3 files can be 
sent directly to the K2 via the  USB and played thru the stereo speakers 
while you read...  You can also  surf the net from the K2...   the screen is 3.5 
x 4.75  inches...   Text size adjustable over 6 sizes...   Text to  speech 
converter
(still being fine tuned!!)

Any K2 questions?  Let me know...

73, Don, W4WJ 

In a message dated 5/12/2009 1:40:48 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
robert8rpi at yahoo.co.uk writes:

Hi,
I did post last night but it seems to have gone into the bit  bucket.
I have had a Sony PRS-505 for over a year. I agree with Russell,  It's 
great for books, I have about 200 on mine at the moment. An often missed  point, 
it's also an MP3 audio player. The screen size and resoultion make it  poor 
for PDF's though. Computer generated ones are just about readable, most  
scanned ones are useless. There was a software update that improved things a  
little, but not much. I keep "emergency" datasheets on mine, but that's 
about  it. I also had trouble with the manual for my Canon digital camera. The  
security watermark comes out at 100% density and obliterates the text. B.T.W 
 the sony is a Linux based devive so there are hacking  possibilities.

Robert G8RPI.

--- On Mon, 11/5/09, Russell  Rezaian <rrezaian at motorola.com> wrote:

> From: Russell Rezaian  <rrezaian at motorola.com>
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Kindle and HP  service manuals ?
> To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency  measurement" 
<time-nuts at febo.com>
> Date: Monday, 11 May, 2009,  9:46 PM
> I don't have a Kindle, but I do have
> both the Sony  Reader (501) and the iRex iLiad.
> 
> Here are a few comments  based on my experience.
> 
> I don't think the Kindle is  officially sold in Europe
> yet.  Both the Sony and the iRex  readers are available
> in Europe.  May not mean much for you, but  might make a
> difference if you care about things like ease of  warranty
> support.
> 
> Big point:  Most of these  devices have screens that
> are too small to display an A4 or US Letter  PDF page at full
> resolution.  So you either need to scale the  document,
> which in  my experience works poorly, or view part  of
> the page.  Partial page views (where you view in full
>  resolution, but have to scroll around the page) are easier
> to read but  require you to do a lot more page flipping.
> 
> Which brings me  to my next point.  Screen updates on
> the e-ink displays are slow,  it takes few seconds to
> update  the pixels for every page  change.  For
> reading a novel this is not a major problem. For  reading a
> technical document where you are going one page at a  time
> this is also not a problem.  If you're searching
>  through a document and need to flip through a lot of pages
> this  probably will be a problem.
> 
> That said, the e-ink displays are  actually really nice to
> read. Contrast is not close to what you get  with real paper,
> but compared to most computer displays there's no  refresh
> flicker at all, and good ambient light makes things  easier
> to read rather than harder.  These displays are  very
> pleasant to read compared to CRT or LCD.
> 
>  Regarding small screen size iRex announced a new device
> with a more or  less A4 resolution display.  This looks
> like it might be really  nice for manuals and technical
> documents.  This box is also about  $1000.00 US, so I
> have not bought one.  I probably won't buy one  any time
> soon either, simply as I can't justify the expense as  I
> already have a couple of the smaller readers already.
>  
> I hate to say this as I do like these devices, but if
> you're  trying to read a technical document and also work on
> an instrument at  the same time I really think you're
> probably going to have the best  results with just printing
> the document out on paper.
> 
>  The reader devices are getting nice, but they're not really
> ready to  replace paper for challenging situations.
> 
> Now, if you want to  read a tech manual (or a novel) on a
> long train ride, or on a plane  ride, then I strongly
> recommend one of these. They're best for the  sort of
> situation where you are just going to be reading page  after
> page, but don't want to carry a lot of bulk.
> --
>  Russell
> 
> At 7:47 PM +0000 2009/05/11, Poul-Henning Kamp  wrote:
> > I tried the other day to follow a calibration
>  procedure in a HP
> > service manual and was severely tempted to  print all
> the 350 pages
> > of it because clearly using pdf  files on a laptop
> sucks when you
> > have one hand on the  probe...
> > 
> > Has anybody tried if amazons's Kindle is  any good for
> such use ?
> > 
> > I know the display  is around 200 dpi resolution, but I
> wonder if
> > the  screen-size is too small for it to matter ?
> > 
> >  Poul-Henning
> > 
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