[time-nuts] need help with LPF
Joseph M Gwinn
gwinn at raytheon.com
Tue Apr 13 00:13:21 UTC 2010
Said,
time-nuts-bounces at febo.com wrote on 04/12/2010 07:42:39 PM:
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> [time-nuts] need help with LPF
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> Hello guys,
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> need some help please:
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> I am looking for suggestions on a problem I have with a 20MHz LPF. This
> part is used to reduce harmonics when generating an nice 10MHz
> sine-wave. Any help is appreciated.
>
> We are using a ceramic 560nH 0603 inductor, and believe that
> this part is picking up lots of noise around 500Hz to 1KHz when on the
> vibration table. Makes the Phase Noise of the Oscillator more
> than 20dB higher than without it!
What is the vibration amplitude?
I would guess that the inductor has a ferrite core, and that the ferrite
is magnetostrictive.
High-K ceramic bypass capacitors are usually piezoelectric.
SMD components pick up more strain from board flexing than other kinds of
component. Something with flexible leads may be less sensitive to
vibration.
If you unsolder and remove the inductor, what happens?
More generally, why are you suspicious of this inductor, versus 50 other
components?
> The caps used in the filter are small COG types, so I don't
> think they are the ones causing the microphonic sensitivity.
I would try tapping the components with a plastic stick hit by a small
hammer while watching.
> I am thinking that a wire-wound inductor fully encased in epoxy
> would work better.
Only if well shielded, to prevent EMI problems.
It may work better simply because the leads are more flexible.
Joe
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