[time-nuts] Loran?

paul swed paulswedb at gmail.com
Mon Dec 20 22:34:01 UTC 2010


Well to be honest when I typed loran it was simply because I felt like it.
It was more important to communicate the fact that I couldn't here and
european stations in the northeast us. Thats all that mattered. Caps or
lowercase simply no longer matters to me on the dead us service.
So getting back at it I will fire up a different antenna and preamp and give
it one more shot.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL

On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Alan Melia <alan.melia at btinternet.com>wrote:

> Hi Rob no we invented "RDF" (or Radio Location)and they called it Radar
> :-))
> Alan G3NYK
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rob Kimberley" <rk at timing-consultants.com>
> To: "'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'"
> <time-nuts at febo.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 9:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Loran?
>
>
> > I there was me thinking that we invented RADAR......
> >
> > Rob (in UK) Kimberley
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: time-nuts-bounces at febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces at febo.com] On
> > Behalf Of David McGaw
> > Sent: 20 December 2010 8:49 PM
> > To: jfor at quik.com; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
> > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Loran?
> >
> >    As written in Wikipedia and as I have always understood:  "The term
> >    RADAR was coined in 1940 by the [1]U.S. Navy as an [2]acronym for
> radio
> >    detection and ranging."
> >    David
> >    At 01:04 PM 12/20/2010, you wrote:
> >
> >      IMO this trend is a two edged sword:
> >      I don't like to see the historical aspect of the name lost by it
> >      becomming
> >      a lower-case noun.
> >      OTOH, it's been said that the ultimate tribute in Physics is to
> >      become
> >      "part of the furniture", like Newton's or Maxwell's Laws.
> >      FWIW,
> >      -John
> >      ===============
> >      > The Oxford dictionary has "radar", "loran" and "scuba" all listed
> >      in lower
> >      > case.
> >      >
> >      > Also according to them "radar" never was an acronym.  It is a
> >      coined
> >      > word.  Technically to be an acronym the it must be spelled by the
> >      > first letter of several other words.  "SCUBA" is an acronym but
> >      > "scuba" is now a common English word that has displaced the old
> >      1950's
> >      > vintage "SCUBA" in modern usage.  But "radar" was never an
> >      acronym.
> >      >
> >      > The Oxford English Dictionary takes the view that the  English
> >      > language changes  with time.    You can disagree.  Many people do
> >      and
> >      > claim English has fixed rules that never change but if you do then
> >      you
> >      > will have to pick a date for when it was "correct" and then
> >      explain
> >      > how it could be incorrect before that date.
> >      >
> >      >
> >      >
> >      > On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 7:07 AM, paul swed <paulswedb at gmail.com>
> >      wrote:
> >      >> Indeed. But thats the way it goes.
> >      >>
> >      >> On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 12:52 PM, J. Forster <jfor at quik.com>
> >      wrote:
> >      >>
> >      >>> There ain't no such thing as Loran. It's LORAN, just like RADAR.
> >      >>>
> >      >>> They are BOTH acronyms.
> >      >>>
> >      >>> -John
> >      >>>
> >      >>> =================
> >      >>>
> >      >>>
> >      >>> > There never was a Loran receiver with a keypad.  I am certain
> >      he
> >      >>> meant
> >      >>> > Loran C.  Loran is (was) the common name for the service...
> >      But then,
> >      >>> > you already knew that, and were just trying to stir things up.
> >      >>> >
> >      >>> > -Chuck Harris
> >      >>> >
> >      >>> > Max Robinson wrote:
> >      >>> >> He didn't say Loran C he said Loran.  That is the old system
> >      that
> >      >>> used
> >      >>> >> to operate just above the AM broadcast band and took away
> >      most of
> >      >>> the
> >      >>> >> 160 meter ham band. That hasn't been around for decades. I
> >      don't
> >      >>> think
> >      >>> >> there is a version of it operating anywhere in the world.
> >      >>> >
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