[time-nuts] Form Factor and such, Big Picture

Javier Herrero jherrero at hvsistemas.es
Fri Dec 24 00:41:56 UTC 2010


I suppose that it all depends on the production quantity :) Well, the 
ADSP-BF537 EZKIT is quite more expensive and does not provides too muchs 
not included in the STAM... and if you like to see thing really 
expensive, this is an example: 
http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail&name=544-2605-ND 


Merry Christmas and happy new year to all of you!

Best regards,

Javier

El 24/12/2010 01:35, Don Latham escribió:
> I think the ADSP-stamp is about $100 overpriced at least. there are boards
> available with more capability for less. There is an old saying that noone
> was ever fired for buying IBM, maybe that's why AD charges what they do.
> meantime, microchip is laughing all the way to the bank...
> That said, your board is about right if that is the price for the
> development system. I do appreciate it was started for your own use.
> Certainly the fpga and blackfin will do the job along with some good front
> end electronics!
> Merry Christmas to you and yours.
> Don
>
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> Javier Herrero
>> Simply ask ;)
>>
>> Seriously, I think that this kind of things are not too much money, like
>> for example the ADSP-BF537 Stamp from Analog Devices
>> http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail&name=ADZS-BF537-STAMP-ND
>>
>> We are not building this one in large quantities, but we've used it as
>> an starting point for several projects (see the space projects section
>> on my web... all of them have one or more inside ;) )
>>
>> Do you think that the STAMP from ADI is too expensive? :)
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Javier
>>
>> El 23/12/2010 21:52, Don Latham escribió:
>>> Gosh, Javier, I went to your website, and found one of my favorite
>>> peeves:
>>> it says "low cost" without a hint of the price. I've found that this
>>> combination usually means "way out of my price class" or, "if you have
>>> to
>>> ask, it's too high", or "low cost for a big company with a research
>>> budget".
>>> Sorry, just my prejudices showing.
>>> Don
>>>
>>> Javier Herrero
>>>> El 23/12/2010 05:24, Bob Bownes escribió:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ARM or other general purpose CPU is interesting, but at what cost for
>>>>> complexity and/or software development? It would require RAM, IO
>>>>> support, and boot rom at the very least. Not insurmountable, but at a
>>>>> cost to complexity.
>>>>>
>>>> If you are not planifying to use an embedded operating system like
>>>> uClinux or embedded linux, no need for external RAM or ROM. There are
>>>> lot of ARMs from several manufacturers with 256kB flash and 64kB RAM or
>>>> more for<$20, with a nice set of peripherals (USB, UARTs, CAN, even
>>>> Ethernet without the need of an external phy). Software tools can range
>>>> from free (GCC + eclipse) to quite expensive (IAR).
>>>>
>>>> If you plan to use an embedded operating system, then more RAM, more
>>>> ROM...
>>>>
>>>> We've an embedded processor board that includes a Blackfin, 16 or 32MB
>>>> flash, 32 or 64MB RAM and a 250,000 gate FPGA, and belive me, it is not
>>>> so expensive (and if it would be interesting for a project like this,
>>>> we
>>>> could try to make a series with special time-nuts price)
>>>> http://www.hvsistemas.com/en/prod/H8606.html
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Javier
>>>>
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Javier Herrero                            EMAIL: jherrero at hvsistemas.com
Chief Technology Officer
HV Sistemas S.L.                          PHONE:         +34 949 336 806
Los Charcones, 17                         FAX:           +34 949 336 792
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