[time-nuts] 5061A Problem Child - It Lives!

[J. L. Trantham]

I have had a lot of fun repairing these units and I have learned a lot from
the experience and from folks on the list, particularly Bert Kehren, Corby
Dawson and John Miles.

If you can think of a way I can help, let me know.

I was able to avoid the need for a pico/femto amp meter.  I probably would
have burned it up anyway.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces at febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces at febo.com] On
Behalf Of paul swed
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 8:21 PM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 5061A Problem Child - It Lives!


Completely agree congrats and thanks for the update.
I may be getting back involved with my 5061a soon now that I have a HP
pico/femto amp meter. By golly I will go hunting for the elusive I beam
current ghost directly off the tube or at least learn that I can't.

On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 6:29 AM, Didier Juges <didier at cox.net> wrote:

> Congratulations Joe!!!
>
> Didier
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: time-nuts-bounces at febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces at febo.com] 
> > On Behalf Of J. L. Trantham
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 11:44 PM
> > To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'
> > Subject: [time-nuts] 5061A Problem Child - It Lives!
> >
> > Just a wrap up on the 5061A that had a Beam I but no 2nd Harmonic 
> > indication.
> >
> > I was originally stymied by swaps of modules with another 
> > 'functioning unit' with no help.  I then swapped CS tubes with A4 
> > Harmonic Generators attached and A11 Cesium controllers at which 
> > point neither unit worked.  I added an
> > A15 Power regulator swap and still neither unit worked.  I
> > undid the swaps, got the 'functioning unit' working again
> > (found a leaky A11C2, a 2.2 uF film capacitor with a
> > resistance of about 1800 ohms, that prevented the 2.8 KHz
> > Control Oscillator from oscillating), then went through some
> > tests of both units, assembly by assembly and found A7
> > faulty.  Problem was a 'weak' Q1 (1854-0023, the input
> > transistor in a 3 transistor amplifier)) with a Beta of about
> > 20.  An identical transistor at Q2 had a Beta of about 200.
> > I installed a 2N2222A that had a Beta of about 150 and all
> > was well.  The 2nd Harmonic came up normally but the Alarm
> > light would not go out.  However, when put in Operate, the
> > Continuous Operation light would come on and the unit seemed
> > to 'lock' normally.
> >
> > I found an open Q20 and a shorted Q22 (both 1854-0003's) on the A14 
> > Logic Assembly causing the Alarm light to stay on. Replaced these 
> > with 2N2222A's and now all seems well.
> >
> > I can't explain why swapping A7 modules early on did not resolve the 
> > 2nd Harmonic indication problem unless both A7's were 'weak' 
> > allowing them to work with a stronger signal but not a weak signal 
> > or all the swapping of tubes, back and forth, in and out, etc., 
> > fixed a dirty connection.  On reflection, probably the latter.
> >
> > In any event, it works and seems to be one of my stronger tubes.
> >
> > I could not find any cross reference for either of these NPN 
> > transistors but the 2N2222A seemed to do just fine.
> >
> > Thanks for everyone's help.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >
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