[time-nuts] Advantages & Disadvantages of the TPLL Method

Didier Juges didier at cox.net
Sun Jun 13 05:51:54 EDT 2010


Tom,

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Didier 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: time-nuts-bounces at febo.com 
> [mailto:time-nuts-bounces at febo.com] On Behalf Of Tom Van Baak
> Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 1:35 AM
> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Advantages & Disadvantages of the TPLL Method
> 
> Here are a couple of really good articles that describe many 
> methods of phase/frequency measurement, including TPLL.
> You'll see some nice "advantage/disadvantage" lists in 
> several of these documents, which is why I'm posting the links.
> 
> Warren & Bruce, please look at the first five documents at least.
> John too. Lots of TPLL info. This is all worth reading. I 
> don't know why I didn't find some of these papers six months ago.
> 
> 
> System Phase Noise Calculation and Measurement Techniques 
> http://www.mpdigest.com/issue/Articles/2009/sept/spectrum/Default.asp
> -- short article, nice summary.
> 
> PN9000 Automated Phase Noise Measurement System Application 
> Note #1 
> http://www.aeroflex.com/ats/products/prodfiles/appnotes/12/app1.pdf
> -- see section 2; TPLL is section 2.2.
> 
> Oscillator Phase Noise Measurements using the Phase Lock 
> Method http://ravoltek.net/dippa/dippa_rajala_olli.pdf
> -- TPLL, equations, graphs, error analysis, photos, 
> schematics, parts list.
> 
> An investigation into the phase noise of quartz crystal 
> oscillators http://etd.sun.ac.za/bitstream/10019/337/1/BentleyB.pdf
> -- see chapter 4 or at least section 4.3; TPLL is 4.3.3.2.
> 
> PN9000 Automated Phase Noise Measurement System Application 
> Note #2 
> http://smartdata.usbid.com/datasheets/usbid/2000/2000-q4/app2.pdf
> http://www.datasheetarchive.com/pdf/Datasheet-010/DSA00173368.pdf
> -- theory of operation, TPLL
> 
> 
> A General Theory of Phase Noise in Electrical Oscillators 
> http://www.chic.caltech.edu/Publications/general_full.PDF
> -- too deep for me.
> 
> Phase Noise Measurement. Using the Phase Lock Technique 
> http://www.chem.duke.edu/~boris/datasheets/AN1639_phase_noise.pdf
> http://www.lansdale.com/Articles/an1639.pdf
> -- might be applicable.
> 
> Correlation-based phase noise measurements 
> http://www.femto-st.fr/~rubiola/pdf-others/correl-report.pdf
> -- for John Miles
> 
> Practical Problems Involving Phase Noise Measurements 
> http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/ptti/ptti2001/paper42.pdf
> --  also for John.
> 
> /tvb
> 
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