[time-nuts] Heated crystal? & Rb tube corrosion (FE-5680A)

Steve . iteration69 at gmail.com
Thu Dec 1 05:19:24 EST 2011


Pete,

Thanks for the pictures. I tend to trust a hermetic quartz or borosilicate
tube.

Looking at those pictures with a different mind set, I see now that the
washers are not corroded as I had suspected.  It's amazing how they
resemble badly corroded washers which are so typically found in ovens in
which alkalines have leaked.

It's good to know that these are not leaky. Had I known this a few weeks
ago I wold have picked a few up.

Thanks guys,
Steve





On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 4:42 AM, Peter Bell <bell.peter at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi, Steve
>
> Both the lamp and the absorption cell are made out of glass (or
> possibly quartz - see attached image).  The unit mounted to the
> crystal is a PTC thermistor wired directly across one of the power
> supplies.  I suspect it's just there to heat up the xtal to a
> temperature close to it's knee point - absolute accuracy is not that
> important since the xtal is being run in a VCXO config and is locked
> to the Rb cell.
>
> None of the units I've looked at appear to have any corrosion on them
> - the discoloration you can see on that photo is just a side effect of
> that fact that the lamp housing (intentionally) runs very hot - about
> 100c.  The only negative effect I've seen from this is that the fiber
> washers that hold the lamp housing in position get somewhat cooked and
> the used ones are easily damaged if you tighten up the screws too
> much.
>
> Regards,
>
> Pete
>
> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Steve . <iteration69 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I've been paying particular attention to the discussions involving the
> > FE-5680A frequency standards of recent attention. I do not have a
> FE-5680A
> > yet, but rather I am studying what is shared from the others prior to
> > buying. At the very least I want to know what I'm up against should I
> get a
> > DOA module.
> >
> > It appears that these units use a heated crystal.(..i sure hope it's
> heater
> > and not an acoustic resonator). Has anyone performed sub 1degree c drift
> > testing against a known stable source? What are the performance gains by
> > using tighter temperature control? Also It appears that quite a few of
> > these have corroded Rb tube interfaces. My guess is the corrosion is a
> > tale-tale sign of small amounts of rb gas leakage in combination with the
> > raised temperatures of the tube oven?  If this is the case I suppose a
> > visual check of the tube interface for corrosion would yield a fair
> > approximation of the tube condition?
> >
> > Lastly, is the Rb tube a quartz tube or is it a metal(silver
> > lined?)canister sealed with polymer tape?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Steve
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