[time-nuts] 10MHz to 80MHz frequency multiplier suggestions

John Miles jmiles at pop.net
Tue Feb 1 10:19:45 UTC 2011


>
> Before one can conclude such a solution is adequate one needs to know
> the ADC requirements for clock jitter.
> If the ADC is a high resolution pipelined ADC like those available from
> AD and LTC then such a solution will degrade the performance
> significantly.
> These ADCs require clock cycle to cycle jitter of a few tens of femtosec
> or less to realise the datasheet performance.

Actually it's better (worse?) than that, for two reasons: 1) none of those
ADCs can take advantage of a clock noise floor much better than -150 dBc/Hz,
and 2) the clock noise is improved by 20*log(clock/input).  That means an HF
receiver like the Perseus will be able to shrug off some or all of the noise
added by the multiplier, depending on where you tune it.

> The intrinsic jitter of an ACMOS gate is too high by a factor of
> 20 or more.

For an HF source, -133 dBc/Hz is a very small amount of phase noise at 1 Hz.
For comparison, both the HP 10811 and later-model Thunderbolt OCXOs are in
the -100 to -110 dBc/Hz neighborhood at 1 Hz.

The residual PN of a 74AC04 is about -135 dBc/Hz at 1 Hz, measured on a 10
MHz carrier(1).  The TSC 5115A, whose ADCs are from the same basic family as
the one in the Perseus, has a (non-correlated) 1-Hz measurement floor
of -133 dBc/Hz(2).

Bottom line: if you use reasonable construction practices and maintain a
high signal level throughout the chain, I don't think there is much to worry
about when driving an ADC with a 10 MHz->80 MHz multiplier.  I would worry
more about spurs than noise.

(1) http://www.ke5fx.com/ac.htm
(2) http://www.symmetricom.com/link.cfm?lid=6156

-- john, KE5FX





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