[time-nuts] 2 (Spoofing)

J. Forster jfor at quikus.com
Tue Oct 4 17:18:27 EDT 2011


What can be done:

The Owner/Moderator of any Group that is spammed can put the hijacked
email address on Moderation or Ban it.

The spam email can be sent to SpamCop or equal, but be sure to delete
febo.com from the spam report. It is not febo's fault.

>From the SpamCop report, file abuse complaints with:

  The spammer's ISP (Dutch in this case)
  The ISP of the site being spammed for

And, you can put the URL of the site being spammed for into xwhois.com and
do a WHOIS and a TRACE. Given this info, you can then file abuse omplaints
with:

  The ISP that hosts the spam site.
  The Domain Registrar for the spam site's URL.

However, not of this will help Jeff any. The spammer will, in all
likelihood, continue to use his email address and address book.

Best,

-John

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> So that no more goes out to the list.  It does nothing to stop the
> problem.
> I'd have to look at the headers but based on what I'm hearing it sounds
> like
> his mail server is wide open, OR, somebody on the same network/isp is
> spamming.
>
> -Bob
>
> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 2:54 PM, J. Forster <jfor at quikus.com> wrote:
>
>> I agree with that picture.
>>
>> The sad thing is that the spammer can do it to Jeff essentially forever.
>> There is little that can be done, other than change his email address,
>> because the spammer has both his email address and a list of sites where
>> that email address is trusted.
>>
>> As a Moderator (not of this group) I immediately moderate any such
>> spamming email addresses, so at least no further spam goes out.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> -John
>>
>> ====================
>>
>> > From the looks of it:
>> >
>> > 1. The bad guys imported/stole Jeff's address book (via social
>> networking
>> > ABI hijack, or PC infection).
>> >
>> > 2. The bad guys then spammed (from 84.27.224.19 in the Netherlands) to
>> the
>> > contacts they stole from Jeff's address book (and spoofing as "Jeff").
>> >
>> > This is troubling because it could happen to any one of us (if we have
>> an
>> > address book and it gets hijacked).
>> >
>> > Per John's previous message, I would be leery of social network ABI
>> > (Address
>> > Book Import) for one thing.
>> >
>> > -Greg
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Chuck Harris" <cfharris at erols.com>
>> > To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement"
>> > <time-nuts at febo.com>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 2:04 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 2 (Spoofing)
>> >
>> >
>> > I'm not convinced.  Notice that the to: line contains a list of
>> addresses
>> > that
>> > look like they would belong in a time-nut's address book.  That
>> wouldn't
>> > be
>> > beneficial, or necessary if the spammer was spoofing his way into
>> febo's
>> > servers.
>> >
>> > I think this came from a spambot running on jeff's machine, and it
>> emailed
>> > the
>> > payload to as many places as it dared... one of them happened to be
>> the
>> > time-nuts
>> > address used for posting messages.
>> >
>> > -Chuck Harris
>> >
>> > gbusg wrote:
>> >> The spam message in question was apparently spoofed and did *not*
>> >> originate
>> >> from Jeff's PC. In the message header, note the Originating-IP was
>> >> [84.27.224.19]. That IP address originates from a server at
>> [Netherlands
>> >> Groningen Ziggo B.v]. Jeff's actual IP address (which I won't repeat
>> >> here)
>> >> is significantly different and is located in the U.S.A.
>> >>
>> >> Chuck, I think somehow the spoofers have overcome the obstacle you
>> >> mention,
>> >> unfortunately. (Otherwise how did the user of the Netherlands server
>> >> manage
>> >> to get spam through to our group?)
>> >>
>> >> -Greg
>> >
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