[time-nuts] Synchronisizing a 100MHz TCXO with Tbold

SAIDJACK at aol.com SAIDJACK at aol.com
Tue Sep 20 01:07:50 UTC 2011


Bert,
 
one would typically limit the loop bandwidth to something much lower than  
10KHz. Say 100Hz.
 
This way at 10KHz the ADF4001 would have no effect on phase noise, it would 
 be almost entirely determined by the TCXO itself.
 
This is because a 10MHz reference would have to have to be better than  
-170dBc/Hz at 10KHz to not affect the output phase noise if the loop bandwidth  
is >10KHz. This is due to the 20log(100/10) noise effect.
 
The loop bandwith should be set where the reference OCXO phase noise floor  
with added 20dB noise intersects the TCXO phase noise floor. This will 
typically  be <<1KHz.
 
bye,
Said
 
 
In a message dated 9/19/2011 18:01:26 Pacific Daylight Time,  
EWKehren at aol.com writes:

Peter,  it will be difficult to degrade -138dBc/10kHz using a ADF 4001. I   
have PLL's using selected $ 1.00  Xtals getting better than   
-153dBc/10kHz. 
.Axtal has units with -174dBC  but out of most price  ranges  but I thought 
you were looking at below -150,very doable with  ADF 4001.
Bert


In a message dated 9/19/2011 5:53:22 P.M. Eastern  Daylight Time,  
krengeldatec at gmx.de writes:

Thank  you  all for your suggestions.

@ Attila:
I think your suggestion   would be "a little bit"
too complicated. I dont want to write a   dissertation :))
My idea was to simply get a low jitter out of the   100MHz
TCXO clocking the FPGA etc..
The fine TCXO I like to use is  a  AXLE20-12 from AXTAL.
I think its expensive enough for my  experiments  (about 100,- EUR) and it 
also
got a electronic  frequency control input  as well as a even much
more expensive OCXO  which would cost me 180,- EUR or  more.
As I said as the ADCs are  working in cascade they have to  be
enabled and disabled as exact as  possible to avoid sampling errors.
A  jittering clock would do a bad  job in that circuit while long time  
stability is not a  problem.





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