[time-nuts] Question about precise frequency / phase measurement
EWKehren at aol.com
EWKehren at aol.com
Thu Apr 19 21:14:12 UTC 2012
Wolfgang
It would help if you would let us know what equipment other than a scope
you have. Also what resolution you would want to achieve. One time set up or
want to use repeatedly.
Bert Kehren
In a message dated 4/19/2012 4:53:40 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
SAIDJACK at aol.com writes:
Depends on the scope..
if your scope has 100ps A-to-B measurement resolution, then waiting 5
minutes in this scenario would give 0.83ns drift, with 100ps uncertainty
IF your
oscillators were synced to ~3ppt which is very tough to do with a
free-running OCXO (It would be unrealistic to get that stability from the
two
sources if they are free running).
A more realistic scenario would give say 100ns drift in 5 minutes, then a
0.1ns resolution on the scope would give a very accurate reading in just 5
minutes (100ns +/-0.1ns = +/-0.1% error). The result would be 3.33E-010,
+/-3.33E-013. Who needs more resolution than that as the OCXO will likely
wander much more than that in 5 minutes..
bye,
Said
In a message dated 4/19/2012 12:52:07 Pacific Daylight Time,
azelio.boriani at screen.it writes:
Yes, and, as you can see, you have to wait 1 hour.
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:49 PM, <SAIDJACK at aol.com> wrote:
> Hi Wolfgang,
>
> one of the easiest and very accurate ways to do this is simply to
measure
> the drift of the two 10MHz signals on an oscilloscope. Adjust the OCXO
so
> that this drift between the two traces is as slow as you can get it.
Then
> simply measure it over time. Use one signal for trigger, the other to
> display
> if you only have a one channel scope.
>
> If you get say 10ns drift over 1 hour (which you can easily measure even
> with the cheapest scopes), that is a resolution of 10ns/3600s =
2.78E012.
>
> Or in other words 27.7uHz!
>
> This has been discussed before and documented in the time nuts archives
> some time ago.
>
> bye,
> Said
>
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