[time-nuts] Vectron Type 229 Crystal Oscillator

GandalfG8 at aol.com GandalfG8 at aol.com
Mon Jun 25 16:44:34 UTC 2012


I agree totally, but if you could see the current state of my test  area 
you'd understand why I just wanted to run a few hours quick test to  make sure 
it was ok and then get it out of the way for now:-)
 
regards
 
Nigel
GM8PZR
 
 
In a message dated 25/06/2012 17:39:53 GMT Daylight Time, lists at rtty.us  
writes:

Hi

Letting it sit on the power supply should not damage to  an OCXO (this one 
or
any other). Having it "baked in" when you need it is a  lot easier than
waiting two weeks once you have the need :)...

Some  will stabilize to X.XXX pp(what ever) in fewer days than others. They
all  get better if you leave them on power.

Bob

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To: time-nuts at febo.com
Subject: Re:  [time-nuts] Vectron Type 229 Crystal Oscillator

Hi Bob

Initially  I just wanted to confirm  all was working, oscillator, oven, and 
EFC,  and have put it to one side for now,  but I agree it should run for 
at  
least a couple of weeks to settle down once  it's powered more  permanently.

I've got a plot I made of another  nice Vectron  oscillator, a 10MHz 
CO_206B59V,  after it had been in storage for a  couple of years and it took
around 
10  days before that was  anywhere near asymptotic to a stable value, and  
this is supposed to  have been unpowered for several years more than  that
one!

regards

Nigel
GM8PZR


In a message  dated 25/06/2012 17:11:10 GMT Daylight Time, lists at rtty.us   
writes:

Hi

Probably best to let it run for a couple weeks  before  doing anything 
really
serious with it.  

Bob

-----Original  Message-----
From:  time-nuts-bounces at febo.com  [mailto:time-nuts-bounces at febo.com]  On
Behalf Of GandalfG8 at aol.com
Sent:  Monday, June 25, 2012 8:23  AM
To: time-nuts at febo.com
Subject: Re:  [time-nuts] Vectron Type  229 Crystal Oscillator

Oh My God......IT'S  ALIVE !!!  :-)

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In a message dated  25/06/2012  01:14:25 GMT Daylight Time, 
GandalfG8 at aol.com   
writes:

Hi  All

I'd like to say thanks again to  all  who've offered advice  and  
information 
on this  one, either via  the list or directly, and having  now  been  
provided 
with  the all the information I need would like to   share  it just in case 
 
it's useful to anyone  else.

The  connection data for the  Vectron 229-9268 is  indeed as   follows.....

1 B+ (Oven)
2  N/C
3  N/C
4 B+ (Osc)
5 VCXO  Supply
6 VCXO  Input
7   Return (Case)


The supply to both  pin 1 and pin 4 is +24V  with  a combined 250 mA  
maximum 
current at   turn-on.


The  unit has +7dBm minimum output. 


EFC  is 12  ppm p-p minimum for  0-6V on pin 6


Reference  voltage on pin 5 should  be  ~6V

Given that it's after 0100  here, I think I might just quit  for  now and  
put 
it  on test in the    morning:-)

Regards

Nigel
GM8PZR









In    a message dated 23/06/2012 19:20:57 GMT Daylight Time,   
GandalfG8 at aol.com  
writes:

I've  recently  bought  a  Vectron 229-9268 100MHz  crystal  oscillator  
via  

Ebay with no information other than it  was supposed to  have  been   
removed 
from 
an item of Racal   radio equipment  several years ago.

It  has an SMA RF  connector and  a 7 pin  circular power connector, much 
in  


the style of a B7G  valve  base, with several leads  attached to that  
which 


terminate  at what appears to be  a miniature version of a 9 pin   D    
connector.

A search through the list archives, and    online  generally, has thrown up 
 
two different  connection   options offered in  response to previous  
requests 

for   
information on 229-xxxx series   oscillators, the first listed  as  being 
for 
a 
CO-229 is  as  follows.......

Pin 1  No  connection (NC)
Pin2  Case(0V)
Pin3  Case(0V)
Pin4  B+   24VDC
Pin5  VCXO Supply For option V models   only
Pin6 VCXO Input  For  option  V models only
Pin7  VCXO  Return/case For option  V  models only

The second is  shown as being for a   "VECTRON 229 osc  with 7 pin Kovar 
feed  

through in  circle similar to  a
tube   base".......

1 B+  (Oven)
2 N/C
3 N/C
4 B+  (Osc)
5   VCXO Supply
6  VCXO  Input
7 return  (Case)

Mine looks to be   a  very close match to the second  option, pins 2 and 3  
 
aren't  used, 7  is definitely  ground, and there are small  decoupling 
caps 


from 
pins   1 and 6 to pin 7,  although no decoupling on 4 and  5.

I've  seen   suggestions for the single power feed versions  that  the   
supply 

options were either 12, 15, or 24 volts but   have  found  nothing to  
indicate 
whether or not the  dual   power feed versions would  always  use identical 
 
supply   voltages, or if they might also have been    available  requiring  
different 
voltages for oven and   oscillator.

I'm  happy  enough to play "suck it and see"  with  the oven voltage, and 
judge   
that by current and  case  temperature, but would prefer not to fry   the   
oscillator  as part of that process, bit self defeating    really:-), so  
any  
information would be very much   appreciated.

regards

Nigel
GM8PZR     
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