[time-nuts] Be aware of test equipment seller orzel-enterprises on eBay

[Tom Knox]

Hi Dave;
I would also recommend opening a" Not As Described" through eBay. Most shippers require a minimum of three inches padding for any claim. Even a rock requires three inches so I am sure a PayPal or ebay dispute will force the seller to make good. I that fails many of the part on that generation HPitem are universal and should be easy to locate.
Good Luck;

Thomas Knox



> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 23:46:01 +0100
> From: david.kirkby at onetel.net
> To: time-nuts at febo.com
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Be aware of test equipment seller orzel-enterprises on eBay
> 
> On 10 September 2012 23:24, Tom Knox <actast at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I had someone ship me a calibrator several years ago and he assured me he was a great packer and had a box that fit it perfectly. He was right the box fit perfectly, no padding required. Is the unit repairable? What parts are required?
> > Good Luck
> > Thomas Knox
> 
> 
> It's annoying. I don't know how big/heavy your calibrator was. But I
> think in future I will discuss with sellers how they intend to ship
> high value items heavy items.
> 
> Lots of HP test equipment, which I'm sure many time-nuts own, is quite
> heavy. Shiping that requires some skill in packing it. This is not
> something I have given much thought to in the past, but I sure will in
> future.
> 
> Not that I expect UPS would pay out on this anyway, but the seller
> undervalued the goods to $1000, which no doubt reduced the shipping
> charge, but means it would be impossible to make a claim.
> 
> Dave
> 
> >
> >
> >
> >> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 23:16:55 +0100
> >> From: david.kirkby at onetel.net
> >> To: time-nuts at febo.com
> >> Subject: [time-nuts] Be aware of test equipment seller orzel-enterprises on   eBay
> >>
> >> I hope the list admin does not mind this email, but I think it will be
> >> useful to any time nut buying test equipment from eBay.
> >>
> >> orzel-enterprises sells electronic test equipment on eBay. I would
> >> advise anyone to think twice before purchasing from him. This is how
> >> he shipped a vector network analyzer and S-parameter test set which I
> >> won on an auction for $2750. It was shipped from the USA to the UK.
> >>
> >> http://boxen.math.washington.edu/home/kirkby/damaged-VNA-by-inadequate-packaging/badly-shipped-8753A-and-85046A.jpg
> >>
> >> Note the box is far too small, and so obviously both units suffered damage.
> >>
> >> He takes no reponsibility for this, and originally expected me to ship
> >> it back at my expense, and still pay the shipping charges from the
> >> USA. So I'd pay for two international shipments, as well as customs
> >> duties. After I pointed out Paypal would expect him to pay the
> >> shipping to me, he has agreed to refund the USA -> UK shipping
> >> charges,  but he still expects me to pay the UK -> USA shipping costs.
> >> I object to this, since it was his total stupidity the thing not
> >> damaged. I don't see why I should pay for someone elses stupidity.
> >>
> >> Dave.
> >>
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