[time-nuts] Possibly off topic - Jitter on Ethernet over power adapters

[Rob Kimberley]

I'm using Meinberg GPS NTP Servers. They are working fine and no problem
with SVs.

Still doing some tests. Will report back once I have anything extra to add.

Thanks.

Rob

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces at febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces at febo.com] On
Behalf Of Chris Albertson
Sent: 10 February 2013 16:15
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Possibly off topic - Jitter on Ethernet over power
adapters

THose power over Ethernet devices work with analog signals and don't
evn look at the data packets.   All they do is place a DC bias on the
twisted pair.    Ethernet is always transformer coupled so your
routers, switches and computers never see DC.

What is your NTP server using for a reference clock?  I'd suspect that
is the problem.   If the reference is an Internet pool server than a
few mS is about what you should expect.   If using GPS then look to
see if you have a good signal from enough satellites.

But those POE boxes don't mess with the data packets, or at least the
are not designed to do that.   If one is broken it could be adding
noise to the line.  Broken hardware can do "anything".



On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 3:18 AM, Rob Kimberley <robkimberley at btinternet.com>
wrote:
> I'm not sure if this is the best place to ask the question, but does 
> anyone have experience of using Ethernet over power line adapters? I 
> have an outside office, and my router is in the house plugged into the 
> phone master socket. I have used two Ethernet over power adapters, one 
> at the router and one in the office here to get internet access. The 
> output of the adapter then goes to a multi-port hub to give me 
> Ethernet to all my office devices including two Meinberg NTP servers.
>
>  I've noticed large jitter readings on Meinberg's NTP monitor program.  
> Can be as low as 2ms, but much higher (50mS +), and at this point NTP 
> goes haywire.
>
> Not sure if it is the physical set up or something else.
>
> Any comments appreciated.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Rob
>
>
>
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