[time-nuts] OXCO Issues -- Latest

J. L. Trantham jltran at att.net
Sun May 12 23:36:14 UTC 2013


My guess is that there is a 'test case' that the unit (foam enclosed units
minus the metal case) is placed into that has a hole through which
adjustments can be made.  Then, it is removed and installed in its 'final
resting place' before sealing the unit.

Joe

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Subject: Re: [time-nuts] OXCO Issues -- Latest

If there's a pot set that's inside the case, indeed inside the "foam"
then there has to be a procedure for setting it before final assembly, no?
can't believe an engineering setup that requires tiny tweaks with assembly
and disassembly. . .
Don

Bob Camp
> Hi
>
> Several outfits made pot set OCXO's for a *long* time. As far as I 
> know there isn't any sort of premature end of life situation with 
> those designs.
>
> Bob
>
> On May 12, 2013, at 3:40 PM, "Al Wolfe" <alw.k9si at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Years ago we were taught that it was poor engineering practice to use 
>> pots to trim a DC value, especially if any appreciable current was to 
>> be drawn from the wiper. (Probably true for any kind of signal on a
>> pot) It seems that current through the wiper would eventually erode 
>> away the material under the wiper. This is true especially for 
>> set-and-forget applications. If the wiper is used only as a voltage 
>> reference and very little current drawn then it is probably OK for 
>> most situations.
>>
>> The above info is mainly for carbon and ceramic pots. Wire wound ones 
>> tend to be somewhat more forgiving but they tend to be step-variable 
>> between the wire turns. Often the sweet spot is between the steps and 
>> they aren't very useful for fine tuning purposes. Sometimes we would 
>> use two pots in series. One was set up as a rheostat and was around 5 
>> percent of the ohmage of the main one. It was used for fine tuning 
>> but the problem of DC current through the wiper remains and is 
>> exacerbated.
>>
>> Probably the best design is to use fixed resistors for most of the 
>> voltage divider circuit and the variable element be a small fraction 
>> of the total divider resistance.
>>
>> Al
>>
>>
>>> Well, I decided to make the "Y" incision and pulled the circuit 
>>> board out of the oven.  (Photos later after I crop them.)
>>>
>>> Yes, the trimpot is part of the circuit associated with the 
>>> thermistor.
>>>
>>> My plan is to check the resistors (surprisingly most are carbon film 
>>> except those in the thermistor circuit), look at the circuit board 
>>> under a magnifier, and stick it back in the foam for testing after 
>>> making any repairs.
>>>
>>> Thanks again for the continuing comments and advice.
>>>
>>> Fred
>>
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