[time-nuts] Off Topic Sortof: Board Rework Stations

John C. Westmoreland, P.E. john at westmorelandengineering.com
Sat Nov 16 05:19:39 UTC 2013


Thomas,

You can say that again.  Maybe this can help start a renaissance of sorts
of garage started companies again in this country.

To be able to rework BGA's for ~$200 - that is great.

Regards,
John W.


On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 7:58 AM, Tom Knox <actast at hotmail.com> wrote:

> It is amazing how affordable these rework stations have become. Ten years
> ago a station like these would cost you thousands of dollars.
>
> Thomas Knox
>
>
>
> > Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 23:57:49 -0500
> > To: time-nuts at febo.com
> > From: glennmaillist at bellsouth.net
> > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic Sortof: Board Rework Stations
> >
> > This is the station that I bought.
> > It is not as sophisticated, but,not as much either.
> >
> >
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/111111632887?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
> >
> > 73
> > Glenn
> > WB4UIV
> >
> >
> >
> > At 09:45 PM 11/14/2013, you wrote:
> > >Bob,
> > >
> > >Yes - you definitely need the appropriate lens - here is a seller that
> has
> > >everything listed:
> > >
> > >
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/INFRARED-T862-SMT-SMD-REWORK-STATION-SOLDERING-WELDER-IRDA-BGA-MACHINE-/200949973718?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ec98d42d6
> > >
> > >I opted to get this though:
> > >
> > >
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/BRAND-NEW-T962A-INFRARED-IC-HEATER-REFLOW-OVEN-300X320MM-BGA-SMD-300x320mm-/200942081431?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ec914d597
> > >
> > >
> > >I may still pick up one of the T-862++'s though.
> > >
> > >Regards,
> > >John
> > >
> > >
> > >On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Bob Camp <lists at rtty.us> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi
> > > >
> > > > If you look at the eBay listings they mention in some of them that
> what
> > > > they are selling is "without lenses". My impression was that you
> needed to
> > > > focus the IR (like with a lens) to really get it to work well. I did
> not
> > > > dig far enough to sort that part out.
> > > >
> > > > Bob
> > > >
> > > > On Nov 14, 2013, at 6:41 PM, John C. Westmoreland, P.E. <
> > > > john at westmorelandengineering.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Graham,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks - good info.  On eBay you can get these for ~$250.00 -
> depending
> > > > on
> > > > > whether it is the T-862 or T-862++.
> > > > >
> > > > > So I guess that is a pretty good buy.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > John
> > > > > AJ6BC
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Graham / KE9H <
> timenut at austin.rr.com
> > > > >wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> John:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> We have one at work.  It basically works as represented.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> It takes some skill to run, and takes some time to develop the
> > > > >> safe settings for soldering different sized items.  It puts out a
> > > > >> tremendous
> > > > >> amount of infrared heat, and you can melt things if you are not
> careful.
> > > > >> For instance, it will melt plastic connectors close to the part
> being
> > > > >> reworked.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> You want to use it in a well ventilated area.  It heats the board
> to be
> > > > >> reworked
> > > > >> from the underside to close to solder temperature, then uses
> infrared
> > > > >> from the top side to push the temperature for the part in question
> > > > >> above solder melting temp., and sometimes things close by.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> The underside heater is covered with silicon rubber, and gives off
> > > > strong
> > > > >> odor when hot.  Hot PCB boards give off strong odors, and of
> course, you
> > > > >> are melting solder and flux.  So, good ventilation is highly
> > > > recommended.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> You will need to practice on a few scrap boards before you try to
> solder
> > > > >> something valuable.  In the hands of a skilled operator, it does
> > > > beautiful
> > > > >> work.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --- Graham
> > > > >>
> > > > >> ==
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On 11/13/2013 9:00 PM, John C. Westmoreland, P.E. wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> Hello All,
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I was wondering if anyone on this list has used the T862++ rework
> > > > stations
> > > > >>> on the PCB's you work on -
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%
> > > > >>> 3Dtools&field-keywords=t862%2B%2B&rh=n%3A228013%2Ck%3At862%2B%2B
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Are these as good as advertised?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Thanks In Advance,
> > > > >>> John Westmoreland
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