[time-nuts] exponential+linear fit
Jim Lux
jimlux at earthlink.net
Mon Oct 7 13:22:38 UTC 2013
On 10/7/13 6:03 AM, Tim Shoppa wrote:
> Proposing a random fitting with various curves without an underlying
> physical (e.g. Eureqa) model seems... odd. That's more voodoo
> engineering/science than anything real. It doesn't surprise me that
> computer scientists would propose that as an approach to data, making it
> even more inappropriate.
>
> Having well-versed engineers and physical scientists looking at curves and
> striving to understand the various features with underlying well-understood
> and used physical models (including abnormalities in measurements), that
> seems appropriate.
>
> The originally proposed model of long term linear drift trend plus
> exponential decay of initial thermal conditions is very well understood and
> accepted.
>
>
however, sometimes, looking to see what else fits might lead to insight
into what is going on "inside the box", when you don't have any information.
In general, though, I agree with you. Every year at the International
Science and Engineering Fair (and at the local and regional fairs before
it), I see people fitting a straight line to data that is fundamentally
not linear (e.g. RF signal strength vs distance, or aerodynamic drag vs
velocity, or speed of sound vs temperature)
I can sort of forgive trying to use a polynomial fit for something for
which the underlying physics says something different; especially if
there's no other choice. Square roots are a particular problem and pop
up surprisingly often: vterminal = sqrt(2*accel*distance), and are not
modeled well by a polynomial.
However, the Excel plot with the linear regression, giving coefficients
out to 5 digits and R^2 the same, is just inappropriate; particularly at
the ISEF level.
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