[time-nuts] Symmetricom chip scale atomic clock

dlewis dlewis6767 at austin.rr.com
Fri Apr 25 08:59:45 EDT 2014


Said:  I wish you well in your 'recovery.'

My past careers also took me through many of these types of 'anomalies.' 
Seemingly disastrous in the moment; but, ... then, one goes off to form "GO" 
teams (or whatever the buzz-word was at the time.)  Problems get fixed; 
designs change; production starts again....

Bottom line:   Problems always seemed to get resolved; smart minds come into 
play and find the problem.

BTW,  .... I agree with you 100% in your comment:  "...This list has lost 
quite a bit of quality in recent years unfortunately..."  I really enjoyed 
the talent at first, ..but now, ... anymore, ... it is more like a teenage 
hen-party blogging back and forth.

Don Lewis
dCOM
Austin, TX  (Hyde Park)








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-----Original Message----- 
From: Said Jackson
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 1:45 AM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Cc: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Symmetricom chip scale atomic clock

Hi Atilla,

Appreciate your support.

That was a Monday morning quarterback that has no decorum to sign his name 
to his posts and uses a bogus email alias. Probably a competitor that is 
sour that they cannot compete with Microsemi's CSAC technology on any 
meaningful level. I have noted many anonymous postings here recently. This 
list has lost quite a bit of quality in recent years unfortunately.

These types of negative postings before all the facts are in are exactly the 
reason why larger companies first forward you to their legal department when 
you ask for any kind of technical support or information, or simply ignore 
you.

We certainly have learned our lesson the hard way.

Bye,
Said

Sent From iPhone

On Apr 24, 2014, at 23:14, Attila Kinali <attila at kinali.ch> wrote:

> On Fri, 25 Apr 2014 08:33:06 +0300
> MailLists <lists at medesign.ro> wrote:
>
>> The recently acquired cash cow isn't working exactly as
>> expected/advertised. We still don't have a clue when/if the fundamental
>> (as in physics laws) design (we can't officially blame the cheap Chinese
>> manufacturer) flaw will be fixed (manufacturer replaced), but as our
>> main customer, which is used to (literally) blow up tons of (others')
>> money, isn't very concerned (for now), and the profit margin is (still)
>> high enough to replace (no questions asked, for the time being) the
>> failed units of the other (civilian/commercial) customer(s).
>
> Sorry, but this is was not necessary.
> Not every company is evil and not every company just works for the
> short term bottom line.
>
> It is very normal that problems show up in series production which
> were not visible before in the prototypes or pre-series production.
> It's part of the very nature how volume production work. And no,
> you cannot always attriubute it to less care taken in the volume
> production than in the pre-series. Some flaws are only visible if
> you get enough produced and then it's still one in a couple hundred
> if not a one in a couple hundred thousand.
>
> Every product i was ever involved with had some flaws uncovered during
> series production. Even if the gratest care was taken. IMHO it does not
> matter whether the product has a shows suddenly a flaw or not, but how
> the manufacturer reacts to it. And as it seems Microsemi is replacing
> the failing units without causing trouble.
>
> Also, please be aware that fixing a flaw that only very few units show
> is not an easy thing. You cannot just build a prototype and be sure
> that the bug is gone. You have to first produce enough to have a 
> statistical
> significant sample size. This all takes time, weeks, months, or even 
> years.
>
>
> So, please refrain from spreading false rumors that anyone is ignoring the
> issue when aparently the contrary is the case.
>
>
>            Attila Kinali
>
> PS: Disclaimer: i neither work for or have any ties with Microsemi or
> Jacksonlabs.
>
> -- 
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> the little doings of the day. I believe I could find something ridiculous
> even in the saddest moment, if necessary. It has nothing to do with being
> superficial. It's a matter of joy in life.
>            -- Sophie Scholl
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