[time-nuts] Lady Heather and the NTGS50AA

[EB4APL]

Hi Nigel,

The GPSTM tool (The program identifies itself as GPS Monitor v 1.5, to 
contribute to the entropy) also gives the same errors when connected to 
my NTGS50AA, caused by bad programming that becomes crazy when listening 
to a device that sends data at 9600 Bd, but in the rare occasions when 
it syncs it works quite well and it has specific Trimble-Nortel 
functions for the NTGS50AA and its cousins, like the ability to handling 
the front panel lights.
Using the other GPS monitor, the GPS Studio or even the Thunderbolt 
monitor is easy as they seems to recognize the baud rate but they lack 
the special features noted above.
I too prefer Lady Heather, it  is another kind (better) of animal with a 
lot of other useful things.

Regards,
Ignacio


On 18/01/2014 17:19, GandalfG8 at aol.com wrote:
> Hi Ignacio
>   
> I'm not familiar with the GPSTM tool, trying to run it here gen.erates
> exception errors, but from what I see when it's trying to boot it's much the
> same format as Trimble's various other offerings.
>   
> If you run Trimble GPS Monitor though, version 1.6 was the latest but  1.05
> is fine too, and that doesn't connect there's likely to be a box  showing
> "IDLE" in the bottom right hand corner of the displayed screen for  that.
> If you right click that you should get a drop down menu with the top item
> "COM Port..."
> Left clicking that should bring up a small panel  for selecting Com  port
> and settings with a tick button for Auto-detect settings.
> If you select that tick button and hit OK it should run through all that
> standard options for baud rate and protocol etc and should hopefully find
> whatever it's set to at the moment.
>   
> I've just tried this with an NTGS50AA that's been running with Lady Heather
>   and it very quickly connected using TSIP at 9600-8-None-1.
>   
> Once running in GPS monitor it's fairly straightforward to change settings
> to what you prefer, at least it is for appropriate Trimble GPS modules but
> I haven't tried using it to make changes with the NTGS50AA.
>   
> I have observed though that Lady Heather can make other  unexpected changes
> at times.
> I've been playing with some Trimble Resolution T and Resolution SMT modules
>   recently, along with various different versions of Trimble GPS software as
>   well as Lady Heather, and was losing settings, apparently at random,
> until I realised that Lady H was changing the format for output data such  as
> position and altitude etc to alternative formats that GPS Monitor and  Trimble
> Studio, for example wouldn't or couldn't display.
>   
> It's easy enough to put them back, and once done they seem to survive
> different versions of Trimble software as well as power cycling etc etc,  but
> when run with Lady H they reset again.
> Once aware of this I've just accomodated it and haven't bothered to
> investigate further, so it's quite possibly something in a config file that  could
> be changed, but to be fair to Lady H, Trimbles own software isn't best
> behaved at times either.
>   
> When running the NTGS50AA with GPS monitor just now I noticed the position
> data is greyed out, even though it still displays fine with Lady H, but I'm
> a  bit more cautious about tempting to configure these with Trimble's
> software and  much prefer running them with Lady H anyway.
>   
> Regards
>   
> Nigel
> GM8PZR
>   
>   
>   
>   
> In a message dated 18/01/2014 14:57:03 GMT Standard Time,
> eb4apl at cembreros.jazztel.es writes:
>
> I have a  NTGS50AA working with the Lady Heather last version which
> incorporate  support for this board (Thanks Mask Sims).
> When I bought the board I used  the Trimble utility GPS Monitor (GPSTM
> Commissioning Tool V1.5) to set it  up and in the way knowing that it was
> previously  working in  Guatemala.  This program uses COM1 or 2 with a
> fixed configuration of  19200, 7,Odd and 1stop bit. After using LH it
> seems that it changed the  parameters to 9600.0.N,1 probably using an
> undocumented command and the  board stores this configuration even if
> unpowered.  But now I can't  use  the Trimble program because it refuses
> to connect, even it  crashes when trying to connect at 19200 baud.
> Strangely it worked a  couple of times when I was trying to command the
> leds in the panel but I  don't know how it managed to change the baud rate.
> Does anybody know how to  change the configuration of the board serial
> port, maybe an undocumented  command? I have the manual but I don't find
> anything neither in the LH  documentation.
>
> Regards,
> Ignacio
>
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