[time-nuts] Lady Heather and the NTGS50AA
GandalfG8 at aol.com
GandalfG8 at aol.com
Sun Jan 19 09:26:20 UTC 2014
Hi Ignacio
Your mention of the lights control had me confused for a minute, probably
not that difficult these days:-), because I do remember seeing that so was
wondering if the GPSTM tool had worked for me at one time after all.
However, a search through the various trimble programs reminded me that
the Thunderbolt monitor, Tboltmon 2v60, has a GPSTM tab that does just this
and I've checked the LED control and that works ok here, although I'm not
sure why I would ever need it.
I can't say whether or not the GPSTM tool has other options this lacks but
it might be worth a try anyway.
If you haven't already got it you should be able to find Tboltmon online
but I'm happy to send you a copy if you wish.
I've also found that the NTGS50AA is as vulnerable as other Trimble kit
when it comes to swapping about the various Trimble control programs, this one
at the moment has decided to default to internal port B and so far refuses
to permanently store any instructions to switch back again!!
Here we go again, anyone seen my hammer?
To return to the subject line though, Lady H still dives in without
hesitation and just gets on with the job, she really is one very capable Lady:-)
Regards
Nigel
GM8PZR
In a message dated 19/01/2014 01:12:45 GMT Standard Time,
eb4apl at cembreros.jazztel.es writes:
Hi Nigel,
The GPSTM tool (The program identifies itself as GPS Monitor v 1.5, to
contribute to the entropy) also gives the same errors when connected to
my NTGS50AA, caused by bad programming that becomes crazy when listening
to a device that sends data at 9600 Bd, but in the rare occasions when
it syncs it works quite well and it has specific Trimble-Nortel
functions for the NTGS50AA and its cousins, like the ability to handling
the front panel lights.
Using the other GPS monitor, the GPS Studio or even the Thunderbolt
monitor is easy as they seems to recognize the baud rate but they lack
the special features noted above.
I too prefer Lady Heather, it is another kind (better) of animal with a
lot of other useful things.
Regards,
Ignacio
On 18/01/2014 17:19, GandalfG8 at aol.com wrote:
> Hi Ignacio
>
> I'm not familiar with the GPSTM tool, trying to run it here gen.erates
> exception errors, but from what I see when it's trying to boot it's much
the
> same format as Trimble's various other offerings.
>
> If you run Trimble GPS Monitor though, version 1.6 was the latest but
1.05
> is fine too, and that doesn't connect there's likely to be a box showing
> "IDLE" in the bottom right hand corner of the displayed screen for that.
> If you right click that you should get a drop down menu with the top item
> "COM Port..."
> Left clicking that should bring up a small panel for selecting Com port
> and settings with a tick button for Auto-detect settings.
> If you select that tick button and hit OK it should run through all that
> standard options for baud rate and protocol etc and should hopefully find
> whatever it's set to at the moment.
>
> I've just tried this with an NTGS50AA that's been running with Lady
Heather
> and it very quickly connected using TSIP at 9600-8-None-1.
>
> Once running in GPS monitor it's fairly straightforward to change
settings
> to what you prefer, at least it is for appropriate Trimble GPS modules
but
> I haven't tried using it to make changes with the NTGS50AA.
>
> I have observed though that Lady Heather can make other unexpected
changes
> at times.
> I've been playing with some Trimble Resolution T and Resolution SMT
modules
> recently, along with various different versions of Trimble GPS
software as
> well as Lady Heather, and was losing settings, apparently at random,
> until I realised that Lady H was changing the format for output data
such as
> position and altitude etc to alternative formats that GPS Monitor and
Trimble
> Studio, for example wouldn't or couldn't display.
>
> It's easy enough to put them back, and once done they seem to survive
> different versions of Trimble software as well as power cycling etc etc,
but
> when run with Lady H they reset again.
> Once aware of this I've just accomodated it and haven't bothered to
> investigate further, so it's quite possibly something in a config file
that could
> be changed, but to be fair to Lady H, Trimbles own software isn't best
> behaved at times either.
>
> When running the NTGS50AA with GPS monitor just now I noticed the
position
> data is greyed out, even though it still displays fine with Lady H, but
I'm
> a bit more cautious about tempting to configure these with Trimble's
> software and much prefer running them with Lady H anyway.
>
> Regards
>
> Nigel
> GM8PZR
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 18/01/2014 14:57:03 GMT Standard Time,
> eb4apl at cembreros.jazztel.es writes:
>
> I have a NTGS50AA working with the Lady Heather last version which
> incorporate support for this board (Thanks Mask Sims).
> When I bought the board I used the Trimble utility GPS Monitor (GPSTM
> Commissioning Tool V1.5) to set it up and in the way knowing that it was
> previously working in Guatemala. This program uses COM1 or 2 with a
> fixed configuration of 19200, 7,Odd and 1stop bit. After using LH it
> seems that it changed the parameters to 9600.0.N,1 probably using an
> undocumented command and the board stores this configuration even if
> unpowered. But now I can't use the Trimble program because it refuses
> to connect, even it crashes when trying to connect at 19200 baud.
> Strangely it worked a couple of times when I was trying to command the
> leds in the panel but I don't know how it managed to change the baud
rate.
> Does anybody know how to change the configuration of the board serial
> port, maybe an undocumented command? I have the manual but I don't find
> anything neither in the LH documentation.
>
> Regards,
> Ignacio
>
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