[time-nuts] Xtendwave Everset chips update

[paul swed]

Bob
Funny you mention that. I actually have a remote chance of actually doing
that.
I know a guy who knows a guy... I really don't want to get tangled in that
total distraction actually. The value of the chip in at least a predictive
wwvb d-psk-r is that you could easily obtain the nasty DST data. As I have
only recently realized due to some pushing from Tom thats the mess not the
31 bit timecode. Quite the surprise actually.
The everset chips actually don't give you useful things that you need like
raw wwvb carrier or much else. So you are only leveraging the message for
the dst clues.
Lot of pain for little gain.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL


On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 1:09 PM, Bob Camp <kb8tq at n1k.org> wrote:

> Hi
>
> If you want to go a bit crazy, there are places that will package up die
> for you. Depending on the resulting package, cost is in the $0.30 to $20
> per part range. Most of the places will hit you with a ~ $500 setup charge
> and are unlikely to deal in less than 1,000 piece lots (unless things are
> really slow - not the case right now).
>
> If it’s a part that will fit in a “normal” ceramic DIP package, you
> *might* be able to manually wire bond it. Your local university it a good
> place to scout around for somebody with the gear to do the job. It’s not
> all that hard to do. It’s a “case of beer” sort of deal to get a handful of
> parts done. That assumes you can find the right guy and pay for the
> packages. There are a *lot* of them doing short run ASIC’s these days and
> they have to try them out somehow. The MPW run costs them  < $5K so they
> don’t spend a lot on the packaging.
>
> Bob
>
> On Jul 2, 2014, at 12:49 PM, paul swed <paulswedb at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Emailed Pete at Everset about the ES100 and 200 chips and unfortunately
> > only chip dies are available. I am good but not that good.
> > He suggests that someday a vendor will be selling a clock and thats the
> > only reasonable option that will be available.
> > All in all completely unattractive, as someone is going to pay for this
> > clever new timecode and it surely won't be me.
> > Though if the clocks are in the $20 range thats a different discussion.
> > Somehow I suspect its the $1000 range. No honest clue though.
> > So clearly not a useful path to d-psk the wwvb or actually anything else.
> > Tom so much for the predictive approach at least to a point.
> > Regards
> > Paul.
> > WB8TSL
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