[time-nuts] OT -- AOL and Yahoo Email Warning

John Ackermann jra at febo.com
Sun May 11 15:06:29 EDT 2014


Late to the party, but the version of Mailman that Debian supports 
doesn't yet include the 'from_is_list' capability.  I'm waiting 
anxiously for a .deb packaged version of the latest release, and will 
install that as soon as it shows up.  (I don't want to install from .tgz 
and lose the Debian update capacity.)

Paul Davis said the following on 05/06/2014 01:57 PM:
> I dont know if John knows it or not, but in Mailman (the time-nuts list manager software), setting the variable ‘from_is_list’ to Yes causes the  From: address to be replaced by the list address (time-nuts at febo.com).  That should solve any problems caused by DMARC implementation.  It could be an inconvenience if people are filtering by who’s sending the messages to the list.
>
> Paul - K9MR
>
>
> On May 6, 2014, at 6:50 AM, GandalfG8 at aol.com wrote:
>
>> Apologies for the off topic post but I suspect this will affect some other
>> list members as well as those also using Yahoo groups, so thought it worth
>> sharing.
>>
>> Following some recent email spoof attacks both AOL and Yahoo  have revised
>> their DMARC settings to "Reject".
>> For anyone not familiar with this there's information  available online,
>> but basically, for example, any email that's  attempted to be delivered to an
>> AOL address that is indicating it's  from that or another AOL address but
>> that doesn't actually identify as  originating directly from an AOL mail
>> server will be rejected and/or  bounced.
>> I hope that makes sense:-)
>>
>> What this does mean for any AOL time-nuts users who choose to receive
>> individual emails is that they will no longer receive copies of their own posts
>> or any submitted by other AOL users because AOL, in its infinite wisdom,
>> sees these as a spoof and rejects them.
>> I became aware of this a week or so ago and had just taken to  monitoring
>> the list archives for any posts I might have missed but hadn't  considered
>> any further implications until this morning when I received an  automated
>> notice from the list stating that my membership had been disabled due  to
>> excessive bounces and that I would need to re-enable it, with a warning that  in
>> the longer term it could result in permanent closure of membership if the
>> excessive bounces continue.
>>
>> Obviously this is fundamentally an AOL problem, I'm not suggesting  it to
>> be a list issue as such, and I've now switched my list  email settings to
>> receive just the daily digest in the hopes that this will  avoid future
>> problems with individual emails, but if anyone does know of a  work around that
>> will allow individual emails to be received, whilst still  avoiding the
>> bounces, then I'd be very happy to hear of it.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Nigel
>> GM8PZR
>>
>>
>>
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