[time-nuts] Ultra High Stability Time Base Options for 53132A

Tom Holmes tholmes at woh.rr.com
Tue Apr 14 14:14:28 UTC 2015


Hi Magnus...

Being one of John's over-engineering friends, I can safely tell you that his comment is made with tongue firmly in cheek. But we do have fun doing things that way! And of course the performance of our designs seldom matters; we're just having fun.

Tom Holmes, N8ZM

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces at febo.com] On Behalf Of Magnus Danielson
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 1:59 AM
To: John Ackermann N8UR; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Cc: magnus at rubidium.se
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Ultra High Stability Time Base Options for 53132A

John,

It's that thinking which if not applied with proper analysis forces 
people to under-engineer things.

In both cases, the design will suffer due to lack of experience.

Cheers,
Magnus

On 04/14/2015 01:41 AM, John Ackermann N8UR wrote:
> Among my group of ham project-building friends, the motto is "There is no problem so big or complicated that it cannot be over-engineered."
>
>
>> On Apr 13, 2015, at 5:03 PM, Richard (Rick) Karlquist <richard at karlquist.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 4/13/2015 12:14 PM, Magnus Danielson wrote:
>>>
>>> Oh yes. Some people say that you should not overcomplex things. My
>>> experience is that oversimplifying them can cause a long stretch of
>>> complex problems and complex workarounds making the total solution more
>>> expensive in development, customer relations and more complex than
>>> starting with a more advanced solution, that actually attempts to
>>> address the design issues. Ah well.
>>>
>>
>> This is extremely good advice.  The ultimate example of the
>> oversimplified design is the Muntz TV set, where few parts are
>> used, but they all interact with each other in mysterious
>> ways that depend on unknown unspecified parameters.  The ultimate example of the overcomplicated design is the Japanese VCR, circa 1980.
>> Schematic looks like it was designed by committee.  The parts
>> count has become bloated to the point of redundancy.  Neither
>> is desirable.
>>
>> Rick Karlquist N6RK
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