[time-nuts] Attila Kinali's Request for inductance information

Magnus Danielson magnus at rubidium.dyndns.org
Mon Jul 6 16:24:56 UTC 2015


Fred,

His "Introduction to Electromagnetic Compatibility" is also a good book.
He isn't skipping past things, he explains them in depth.
Haven't seen his Inductance book, so I might need to get that one then.

Cheers,
Magnus

On 06/27/2015 01:48 AM, fred47 at sprynet.com wrote:
> Long-time lurker here.
>
> Attila, you might find the book "Inductance:  Loop and Partial" by Clayton Paul to be what you're looking for.
>
> IEEE Press / Wiley
> --Fred
>
>>
>> Message: 14
>> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 14:34:15 +0200
>> From: Attila Kinali <attila at kinali.ch>
>> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
>> <time-nuts at febo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] magnetic electronic components
>> Message-ID: <20150626143415.202ea02460c2cb4b21294922 at kinali.ch>
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>>
>> Moin!
>>
>> Thanks for all the answers and sorry for my late reply.
>> I tried to at least skim trough the suggestions before.
>>
>> I would like to reply in one big mail instead of many small
>> ones, in order not to clutter the mailinglist too much.
>>
>> On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 00:15:29 +0100
>> Adrian Godwin <artgodwin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Although it's published by a vendor, this applications manual has a lot of
>>> useful information.
>>>
>>> http://www.we-online.com/web/en/electronic_components/produkte_pb/fachbuecher/Trilogie.php
>>
>> Even though, I do not own a copy of The Trilogy, I know of it.
>> It does a good job of covering the basics. But unfortunately, it
>> does not contain much about the theoretical background, so does
>> not help much in understanding how to work around the physical limits
>> of cores. Other than that, I would recommend this book to every practicioning
>> electrical engineer.
>>
>> On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 18:56:02 -0500
>> Bob kb8tq <kb8tq at n1k.org> wrote:
>>
>>> You have two choices:
>>>
>>> 1) Read the physics stuff
>>> 2) Go back far enough that the divide had not occurred ( <= 1950’s).
>>>
>>> Sorry about that ….
>>
>> Yes. I came to a similar conclusion. What irks me is, that this is
>> the conclusion I came to with many topics in electrical engineering.
>> At some point people decide that it is either too difficult to deal with
>> or a solved problem and ignore it completely from then on. And if you
>> are an engineer who tries to actually understand things instead of just
>> repeating what some senior engineer told you long long ago, then you
>> run up against walls. :-(
>>
>> On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 20:24:14 -0700
>> Jim Lux <jimlux at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>> the best, and probably the only, book is the one by E.C. Snelling.
>>> http://www.amazon.com/Soft-ferrites-properties-applications-Snelling/dp/0592027902
>>>
>>> 1969 edition is
>>> https://archive.org/details/SNELLING__SOFT-FERRITES__1969
>>>
>>> and it's not like the properties of magnetic fields have changed.
>>
>> Cool! Thanks a lot! I was looking for this, but couldn't find it.
>> I somehow missed that archive.org had a copy.
>>
>> On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 07:25:57 -0400
>> Tim Shoppa <tshoppa at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Here in the USA, iron powder and ferrite cores of many different materials,
>>> sizes, and a few shapes are available from Amidon and kitsandparts.com.
>>> Many useful ferrite cores for multi-turn transformers and chokes, are sold
>>> as "EMI beads" by Mouser and Newark and other mainline distributors. I
>>> don't know too much about easy availability in EU.
>>
>> Buying cores is not much of a problem. For one there are the distributors
>> you have mentioned, for another we have companies like Würth here in
>> Germany and Coilcraft in the US who are no afraid of selling single pieces
>> (if they dont just regard it as samples).
>>
>> BTW: I really like to work with Würth. I know very few components companies
>> that go so much out of their way to help a struggling engineer to get his
>> project done. And they never ask about the volume of your project. You need
>> help, you get help.
>>
>>
>> Thanks for all the replies and suggesttion. And sorry if I don't answer all
>> of them individually.
>>
>> Attila Kinali
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