[time-nuts] Loran C returning to a station near you...

paul swed paulswedb at gmail.com
Wed Jul 15 08:59:28 EDT 2015


I did fire up the srs last week and did not here it?
I will fire up a LF receiver and listen. Perhaps my preamp is sick.
Regards
Paul.

On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 11:32 PM, David McGaw <n1hac at dartmouth.edu> wrote:

> The word is that eLoran IS on in the US from Wildwood as of June 19.  Has
> anyone noticed the signal?
>
>
> http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/news/loran-navigation-signal-back-on-and-better-than-before/article_21d19298-16d0-11e5-9a69-1343edc2e90b.html
>
> There is also a bill in the US House to reinstate Loran-C as eLoran.
>
> David N1HAC
>
>
>
> On 7/14/15 6:49 PM, Bob Camp wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> Not to be to much of a downer here but …..
>>
>> Loran for timing and an “Eastern WWVB” are two projects that seem to each
>> have a
>> life of their own. They seem to come up on some sort of cycle related to
>> sun spots.
>> Both have zero (or possibly less than that) percent mind share among
>> those who
>> would need to implement them into systems. Since there is major cost on
>> the systems
>> end, it would take “mandatory use” legislation to get them designed in.
>> Without those
>> design in’s, *having* a backup system is pretty useless. You are talking
>> about billions of
>> dollars and years of effort to hook them up ….
>>
>> If you are talking about “infinite budget” military systems, some of that
>> may happen. I
>> notice in the papers that “infinite budget” does not seem to apply to the
>> US DOD these
>> days. For commercial systems, nobody will significantly cut into profits
>> to do something like this.
>>
>> Should they do this - sure. Will they do it - nope.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>  On Jul 14, 2015, at 4:49 PM, paul swed <paulswedb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Poul-Henning,
>>> The reason to stay with the LORAN C style pulses is very very simple. It
>>> allows our time-nuts Austrons and SRS to work. Its the only way I get any
>>> of my tax dollars back. :-)
>>> The good news is no official government person reads time-nuts.
>>> Regards
>>> Paul
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 12:16 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk at phk.freebsd.dk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  --------
>>>> In message <55A4AC81.1030100 at rubidium.dyndns.org>, Magnus Danielson
>>>> writes:
>>>>
>>>>  The safety is
>>>>> relative, in that it takes quite a bit of more infrastructure compared
>>>>> to the jamming of GPS, and that lies in the wavelength of the signal
>>>>> than anything else.
>>>>>
>>>> If the goal is a reliable backup for GPS, there are smarter ways to
>>>> use the 100kHz band than Loran-C pulses, and there really isn't much
>>>> reason to stay compatible with Loran-C receivers.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Poul-Henning Kamp       | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20
>>>> phk at FreeBSD.ORG         | TCP/IP since RFC 956
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