[time-nuts] TrueTime AL-AK GPS receiver help

paul swed paulswedb at gmail.com
Sat May 2 01:55:32 UTC 2015


Bob brings up all the additional details that are the reality of dealing
with teh older gear. Especially the date offsets because of the 1024 week
cycle. That is a real pain.
But the reason to spend time on something like this is to understand
something and to learn.
I picked up the austron 2000 gps because it was a useful rack mount box.
Then realized some of its unique qualities. That was the driver for
reviving it.
I was lucky that I was able to obtain some operational data and then later
schematics. BUT it was still a heck of a reverse engineering and adapting
process.
I am pretty sure I shared that on time-nuts and will guess that must be 5
years ago now.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL

On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 5:58 PM, Bob Camp <kb8tq at n1k.org> wrote:

> Hi
>
> I guess the first question would be:
>
> Are we sure it’s an AL-AK and not an XL-AK?
>
> Past that it becomes a fairly involved process of, is it worth real money
> to get this up and running?
>
> If we are talking about a $20 eBay find that is worth another $5 to have
> somebody else get it running, the
> conversation is a real short one.
>
> If the AL-AK has some inherent value (it’s a working GPS disciplined Cs
> maybe) then putting a few hundred
> dollars into checking it out and getting it running might make sense. If
> it’s like most of the parts from that
> era, the delta between getting it checked and getting it running is pretty
> small.
>
> Once you *do* have it running, what do you have?
>
> 1) Leap second problems
> 2) GPS year rollover problems
> 3) Tracking issues
> 4) A noisy receiver with very few correlators
> 5) Software support issues
>
> This is an unusual box that is at least 20 years old. It *will* have at
> least some of the listed issues and
> may have all of them. Fixing them will be impossible.
>
> ========
>
> Why bring up all of the negatives? I for one have been sucked into this
> kind of thing a *lot* of times
> in the past. Just a few more this or that and it’ll be running fine. Much
> better to figure out the likely
> cost and outcome first. That’s *very* hard to do, and even harder to
> follow through on. If you can’t
> do the work yourself, the cost isn’t just lost time. This can cost real
> cash.
>
> Bob
>
>
> > On Apr 30, 2015, at 12:50 PM, Tom Van Baak <tvb at LeapSecond.com> wrote:
> >
> > I received this email. Anyone have a good answer?
> > Thanks,
> > /tvb
> >
> > ----------
> > Someone on ebay advised me to contact your website in hopes that someone
> in your organization can help me with my TrueTime model AL-AK GPS Receiver.
> I need to send it to someone so that they can check it to see if it works
> and can track Satellites.  This receiver has the onboard up/down convertor
> board that changes the receiver input frequency which is set at 4.092 MHz.
> I don't have the needed down converter at the antenna. I bought this
> receiver on ebay from someone who told me that he doesn't have the down
> converter as well and can't figure out how to get it to work at 1575.42
> MHz. He also didn't know if this receiver can be setup for a 1575.42 MHz by
> removing the onboard converter and changing some DIP switches. If one of
> your members can at least check out the receiver at 4.092 MHz for satellite
> tracking That would be a big help ...
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