[time-nuts] Downsizing dilemma, HP 3335A

Thu Nov 12 02:34:40 UTC 2015

Tektronix (long before being a division of Danaher) up to at least the mid
70's would require an EE to
work in production. I understand some HP divisions did the same. All that
started to change when
'software' engineers were showing up.

On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 5:56 PM, KA2WEU--- via time-nuts <time-nuts at febo.com
> wrote:

> I know Zoya for many years, this ham business is a good idea.Give her my
> best regards , Ulrich
>
>
> In a message dated 11/11/2015 7:00:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> rob at nc0b.com writes:
>
> The EE  department at the University of Colorado has an enlightened
> professor.
>
> http://ecee.colorado.edu/faculty/popovic.html
>
> Zoya required her  students to not only get a ham license, but to build a
> Norcal 40A.
>
> http://ecee.colorado.edu/~ecen2420/Files/NorCal40A_Manual.pdf
>
>
> Most  of the EE students had no idea what a resistor really was, let alone
> have any  experience in soldering a resistor or capacitor on a PC board.
> One
> student  stuffed the PC board, bent all the leads 90 degrees without
> cutting any of  them off, and then in effect flow soldered the whole
> bottom of the
> PC  board!
>
> One wonders how EE grads today can actually get a job and be  productive
> with so little hands-on experience.
>
> Zoya belongs to the  Boulder (Colorado) Amateur Radio Club, and our monthly
> meetings are in the EE  department. It is too bad this is likely an unusual
> example of what happens on  campuses today.
>
> Rob
> NC0B
>
>
> -----Original  Message-----
> From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces at febo.com] On Behalf  Of Pete
> Lancashire
> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 10:01 AM
> To:  Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
> Subject: Re:  [time-nuts] Downsizing dilemma, HP 3335A
>
>
>
> I can understand the  downsizing, someday it will happen to me. And where I
> live there is pretty  much zero interest in anything electronic. The two
> local schools Portland  State and Reed both have EE but the students done
> seem
> to have any interest in  anything physical. they believe everything they
> need or have interest in can  be simulated on a computer. I helped one of
> the
> PSU EE's one day, just  finished his 2nd year, had an old Kenwood stereo
> distorted left output. He  pretty much had no idea what to do, and when
> 'we'
> found the bad transistor, he  didn't really know how to replace it.
>
> BTW I know a Comp Sci graduate  from PSU that can not write a program in
> any language that outputs "Hello  World"
>
> -pete Sad
>
> On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 5:08 AM, paul swed  <paulswedb at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Bill
> > It is unfortunate  when the time comes to downsize. Even worse as time
> > goes by at least  for me each piece of test equipment from HP seems to
> > get heavier.  Must be dust building up inside. So as Ed says if you
> > need that fine  grain resolution you need them.
> > But you are also running into the age  thing in the gear and that there
> > are failures that creep in that are  really a big problem to figure out.
> > Especially if some form of  programmable logics involved.
> > Lastly sending them to the dumpster is  the worst thing. But then the
> > ole reality really sets in selling  packing and shipping the stuff.
> > I guess the good news is that today  there is a lot of replacement gear
> > that will do reasonably well thats  cheap respectively consumes little
> > power and can easily be controlled  by usb so you don't have to
> > actually stop experimenting.
> >  Regards
> > Paul
> > WB8TSL
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 23,  2013 at 2:32 AM, ed breya <eb at telight.com> wrote:
> >
> > >  You don't save these kinds of synthesizers for high frequency
> > >  coverage, but for their 10 to 11 digit frequency resolution. If you
> >  > anticipate needing that, then of course they should be kept and
> >  > fixed. The long-obsolete telecom standard connectors and ranges are
> > > pretty much useless - sacrifice that one first if you need parts  for
> the others.
> > >
> > > If you need to justify keeping them,  you can use them for practical
> > > everyday applications. For  example, each one can store a telephone
> > number -
> > > as long  as the power doesn't go out.
> > >
> > > Ed
> > >
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