[time-nuts] Working with SMT parts.
wb6bnq
wb6bnq at cox.net
Fri Aug 12 14:22:42 UTC 2016
Hi Didier,
I use ExpressPCB as well, but I send the ExpressPCB file to a company
called Futurlec
( http://www.futurlec.com/PCBService.shtml ). They have reasonable
prices. Because it is overseas it takes about three weeks to get the
product back. So far I have been very impressed with the product I
recieved. I have even had notches done in the four corners to fit a
plastic box that came out very well.
Also, There is a person who started to write his own version of layout
program based off of the ExpressPCB program called "Copper
Connection." ( http://www.robotroom.com/CopperConnection/index.html )
It is a bit more involved than the ExpressPCB program and does have
GERBER files as a selection. However he charges for the program but it
seems the prices are reasonable (
http://www.robotroom.com/CopperConnection/Buy.html ).
73....Bill....WB6BNQ
Didier Juges wrote:
>The way ExpressPCB works is that their free software produces boards in a proprietary format, and you have to pay to convert their design file to Gerber.
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>Your mileage may vary but I found the combination of design tools learning curve, board quality and quick service to be worthwhile to me.
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>I have tried Eagle twice and never could manage to build the models I needed. It may have been an issue of not finding the right tutorial but I have produced several ExpressPCB designs in less time than I have tried (unsuccessfully) to produce a single schematic in Eagle, let alone a PWB. Since it is a hobby that has become a business, time matters to me, design time and delivery.
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>At that point, the cost of the Gerber becomes somewhat irrelevant.
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>Note that you can make boards of any size in ExpressPCB.
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>I am not advocating it is the best solution for everyone, I personally would like to be proficient with Eagle, but Express PCB works for me.
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>Didier KO4BB
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>On August 11, 2016 10:45:45 PM CDT, Chris Albertson <albertson.chris at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>This seems totally backwards. Typically a Gerber file is something
>>you make yourself on your computer then send it in for a prototype.
>>Seems odd to buy them.
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>>I checked ExpressPCB prices and they are very high. I can get PCBs
>>made quickly in the US for $3 per square inch, shipping included with
>>$9 minimum order. And you don't buy the Gerbers.
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>>I notice ExpressPCB offers free software. But it is totally
>>non-standard and you can't use it for anything other then for their
>>service. Most people needing free PCB software use Eagle, some use
>>Kicad or some others. But Eagle seems to be kind of a universal
>>standard.
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>>On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Didier Juges <shalimr9 at gmail.com>
>>wrote:
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>>>I concur. I have been using ExpressPCB extensively over the last 2
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>>years
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>>>with great satisfaction now that it is possible to get Gerber files
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>>from
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>>>them.
>>>I typically use the mini board pro service (3 bare boards, 2 sided
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>>with
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>>>solder mask and silk screen) for prototypes and then buy the Gerbers
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>>>
>>--
>>
>>Chris Albertson
>>Redondo Beach, California
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