[time-nuts] DMTD - analog multiplier vs. diode mixer ?
kb8tq at n1k.org
Sat Jan 9 09:19:21 EST 2016
You can use a D flip flop to sample (down convert) a signal. You may or
may not get into metastability problems when you do.
If you treat the gate inputs as -1 and +1 rather than 0 and 1, the XOR is a
multiplier. If you put two signals into the gate and look at the output on a
spectrum analyzer, you get the expected multiplier output. The *why* of
the -1 and +1 stuff is something I will leave to others. It’s a bit involved.
The 74LVC is a good series to use. The NC7SZ series is also a good one.
In both cases, you will get a better noise floor at 5.5 V than at 3 V.
> On Jan 8, 2016, at 9:19 PM, Li Ang <lllaaa at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Bob,
> In some article, I see people use a D-flipflop to sample the input
> signal with reference clock. When you want implement a mixer what's the
> difference between D-flipflop and XOR gate? Acorrding to my understanding,
> to multiply 1bit with another, I should use an AND gate, right?
> When you refer high speed CMOS XOR gate, do you mean 74LVC1G86?
> 2016-01-09 6:42 GMT+08:00 Bob Camp <kb8tq at n1k.org>:
>> The board I have uses high speed CMOS single gate XOR’s. They have a
>> pretty good
>> phase noise floor (-170’s) so they should be pretty reasonable.
>>> On Jan 8, 2016, at 12:16 PM, Richard (Rick) Karlquist <
>> richard at karlquist.com> wrote:
>>> On 1/7/2016 3:11 PM, Bob Camp wrote:
>>>> If your intention is to run a mixer with saturated inputs …. just run
>>>> an X-OR gate. It will handle the high level signals much better than
>>>> an over-driven analog part.
>>> If you look at the schematic of an XOR gate IC and compare it
>>> to the schematic of, for example, an MC1496 mixer, you will
>>> see a lot of similarity. If the gate is of the ECL type,
>>> it will have the addition of emitter followers, but that
>>> it a minor detail of implementation. I'm not sure there
>>> is a huge difference. ECL is a great logic family in
>>> general (self-confessed ECL-phile here :-) but it is
>>> probably the worst for phase noise, compared to the
>>> saturating logic types.
>>> Rick Karlquist N6RK
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