[time-nuts] NIST

[Craig Kirkpatrick]

I agree with Bob that shutting down WWVB would not go over well with the voters but losing WWV and WWVH will mainly be noticed only by HAMs.

Dana, I’m puzzled by what you wrote.  I have 8 clocks and 2 wristwatches that sync with WWVB.  When band conditions are poor they miss a sync for a day but still they are good quartz clocks so the time readout is still OK.  When the band conditions are good again they sync up once per day usually around 2am (according to the manual for my wristwatch).  I can easily tell the sync status on all but 4 of my clocks and they sync successfully about 90% of the overnight times.  My wristwatches are Citizen models that charge by solar which is nice since I have a perfectly in sync watch that never needs to be opened to change a battery.

I do like the idea of a GPS to WWVB timecode radio transmitter.  I think that would sell well to folks on the fringe of coverage for WWVB such as Florida, Hawaii, and Alaska or other parts of the globe.  I’ve found the real limitation to reception of WWVB is local 60kHz noise in the home.  For instance if I have a fan running to cool things in my shack then my WWVB clocks will not sync successfully.

I hope Nick Sayer is reading this and getting the idea to make a GPS to WWVB timecode radio transmitter, clever gent that he is.  :-)

Best Wishes,
Craig
KI7CRA

> On Aug 11, 2018, at 7:48 PM, Dana Whitlow <k8yumdoober at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I fear the worst.  The line in the website simply stated something like
> "shutting down
> the transmitters in Colorado and Hawaii", which would seem to include the
> whole
> enchilada.
> 
> For the wall clocks, GPS should work well if people are willing to go to
> battery-
> backed AC power.  But not so good for wristwatches, where the expectation
> is to
> run at uW power levels.  I for one would be very irritated at having to
> take my watch
> off my wrist and put it on a charging stand every night.  So if this
> shutdown comes
> to pass, I'll be looking for an inexpensive GPS-to-WWVB converter, or at
> least
> plans for building one.
> 
> Dana
> 
> 
> On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 8:12 PM, Bob Albert via time-nuts <
> time-nuts at lists.febo.com> wrote:
> 
>> With any luck, the current administration will successfully push the USA
>> down technically.  Denying global warming, shutting off time signals, and
>> so on, is great stuff.
>>    On Saturday, August 11, 2018, 6:10:12 PM PDT, Bob kb8tq <kb8tq at n1k.org>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> One would *guess* that stopping WWVB (and killing mom and pop’s “atomic
>> clocks”) would not be a reasonable thing to do.
>> It gets a lot of voters mad. I doubt that very many voters (percentage
>> wise) would notice WWV and WWVH going away ….
>> 
>> Bob
>> 
>>> On Aug 11, 2018, at 9:00 PM, jimlux <jimlux at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 8/10/18 12:45 PM, Robert LaJeunesse wrote:
>>>> I'd say it does get more detailed, with the $49M in cuts described
>> generally in groups here:
>>>> https://www.nist.gov/director/fy-2019-presidential-budget-
>> request-summary/fundamental-measurement-quantum-science-and
>>>> One item: "-$6.3 million supporting fundamental measurement
>> dissemination, including the shutdown of NIST radio stations in Colorado
>> and Hawaii"
>>> 
>>> I wonder if that's WWVB, or WWV & WWVH
>>> 
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