[time-nuts] RTC DS3231: how well can it be regulated?

[MLewis]

 > The chip reads the temperature sensor and adjusts the oscillator 
frequency
in the same size steps

Darn.
So no micro-stepless adjusting using external temperature regulation?
Or would you have some, until it reached the threshold to step to the 
next adjustment?


On 30/12/2019 10:20 AM, Jim Harman wrote:
> The DS3231 trim register sensitivity is speced at 0.1 ppm per count typ at
> 25 C. The trim range is +/- 127 counts so the fastest you can slew the pps
> pulse is about 12.7 ppm or about +/- 1.1 sec per day if my calculations are
> correct.
>
> The chip reads the temperature sensor and adjusts the oscillator frequency
> in the same size steps so it is effectively a digital TCXO. The resolution
> of the temperature sensor readout is 0.25 C  so stabilizing the chip
> temperature using that sensor would probably help the overall stability,
> especially at extreme ambient temperatures.
>
> I have thought about making a GPSDO using a DS3231 as a digitally
> controlled oscillator, with the control based on the time difference
> between the GPS and DS3231 pps times, but that is still on the "to-do" list.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 6:09 AM MLewis <mlewis000 at rogers.com> wrote:
>
>> I was watching the PPS LED on my M8T board vs. the LED I put on the RTC
>> DS3231's SQW output enabled for 1 Hz for a PPS. As expected they're not
>> aligned, and the drift of that misalignment shows they're obviously not
>> at the same frequency.
>>
>> It got me wondering. Between the DS3231's Aging Trim, insulating and
>> perhaps a heater for some temperature control, does anyone know if the
>> DS3231's PPS could be synced and stabilized into a reasonable PPS source
>> through an opto-isolator?
>>
>> Might a fibre-optic line be useful as a transmission cable, gapping two
>> LEDs functioning as an opto-isolator, thereby providing both isolation
>> and high-speed coupling for the PPS to the device that wants to read the
>> PPS?
>>
>> I don't know if the onboard temperature sensor is precise/stable enough
>> to be useful for maintaining a stable temperature with a heater. It's
>> accuracy is listed as +/- 3 C, but that doesn't speak to the stability
>> of the temperature it reports.
>>
>> The SQW output can be set to 1 Hz, 1.025 kHz, 4.096 kHz or 8.192 kHz.
>>
>> It also has a 32 kHz output pin. I don't know if that's actually 32 kHz
>> or 2^15 = 32,768 Hz.
>> Ah, there it is. "outputs a 32.768kHz square-wave signal".
>>
>> Has anyone done this, or does it seem like it may be worthwhile?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Michael
>>
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