[time-nuts] Examples of traditional phase noise analyzers
Bob kb8tq
kb8tq at n1k.org
Thu Dec 17 13:40:08 UTC 2020
Hi
The “original reference” for doing phase noise was a Fluke app note
published back in the late 60’s / early 70’s. Pretty much everybody
used it as a starting point when setting up measurements. Just why
Fluke came out with the information before HP or GR is one of
life’s mysteries ….
A quick Google search does not turn up a copy. I’m pretty sure *somebody*
must have a copy on their web site.
Past that, the manuals and papers associated with the HP 3048 would
be a good place to look.
Bob
> On Dec 17, 2020, at 6:02 AM, Attila Kinali <attila at kinali.ch> wrote:
>
> Good afternoon,
>
> In the process of writing my thesis I stumbled over the problem
> that the definition of what phase noise is in IEEE 1139 is a bit
> confusing, to put it mildly. After a short discussion with
> Magnus, it seems clear to me that I need to have a better
> understanding of how phase noise measurement was done in the
> past to properly understand what the standard means to say.
>
> I think, I have a decent grasp on how modern phase noise analyzer
> work, safe for a few details here and there, where they seem to
> try to mimic what the old analog analyzers did.
>
> Before I go on a wild goose chace, I thought I ask here for
> advice: Could you point me at as detailed as possible descriptions
> on how phase noise analyzers used to work in the purely analog
> times? Preferably also as many different approaches as possible.
> And, if you are aware of anything that I should have a look at
> that might not be obvious to a youngster like me, I would very
> much appreciate if you would let me know.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Attila Kinali
>
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