[time-nuts] Examples of traditional phase noise analyzers

Joseph Gwinn joegwinn at comcast.net
Thu Dec 17 19:14:39 UTC 2020


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Re: time-nuts Digest, Vol 197, Issue 21

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> Good afternoon,
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> In the process of writing my thesis I stumbled over the problem
> that the definition of what phase noise is in IEEE 1139 is a bit
> confusing, to put it mildly. After a short discussion with
> Magnus, it seems clear to me that I need to have a better
> understanding of how phase noise measurement was done in the
> past to properly understand what the standard means to say.
> 
> I think, I have a decent grasp on how modern phase noise analyzer
> work, safe for a few details here and there, where they seem to
> try to mimic what the old analog analyzers did.
> 
> Before I go on a wild goose chace, I thought I ask here for
> advice: Could you point me at as detailed as possible descriptions
> on how phase noise analyzers used to work in the purely analog
> times? Preferably also as many different approaches as possible.
> And, if you are aware of anything that I should have a look at
> that might not be obvious to a youngster like me, I would very
> much appreciate if you would let me know.

The best tutorial I've found so far is Owen, D* (2004) Good practice 
guide to phase noise measurement. Measurement Good Practice Guide. 68:

.<https://eprintspublications.npl.co.uk/3519/>

This goes over all the methods, old and new.

Joe Gwinn




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