[time-nuts] Re: High precision OCXO supplier for end costomers

Bob kb8tq kb8tq at n1k.org
Mon Jan 10 20:45:44 UTC 2022


Hi

Ok, well, the boys at Rakon / CEPE will be happy to sell you a ~ $30,000 OCXO
with a lead time of about 2 years. I suspect you will have to pay at time of order 
unless you are a well known business …. Unlike a lot of this and that you see 
tossed around for specs, I’m quite sure they *do* meet their published numbers.

The only thing I’m not 100% sure of is if the minimum order quantity is 1,3,5 or
10. If cost is no object, that should not really matter. 

Bob

> On Jan 10, 2022, at 3:06 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk at phk.freebsd.dk> wrote:
> 
> --------
> Bob kb8tq writes:
> 
>> My only concern here is that before one goes of and spends 5,10, or
>> 20 thousand dollars on an OCXO, [...]
> 
> Bob, you are kind of missing the point here...
> 
> The entire point of Audio-Homoepathy is to spend excessive amounts
> of money, so that you can brag about how rich you are, and how
> super-human your refined sense of hearing is, all without wasting
> any time or effort on it.
> 
> How else can there be a market for $3000 CAT-6 ethernet cables ?
> 
> It is Audio-Homoepathy, because the crucial feature is "orders of magnitude".
> 
> They do not buy a slightly expensive ethernet cable, they buy one
> which cost several orders of magnitude more than what it is worth,
> so that nobody can doubt that money is no issue - and thereby
> make the money the only real point.
> 
> I know several people who are quite comfortable parting these
> newly-rich from their money, and I cannot really fault them...
> 
> One of those companies have a business model where they hand-build
> quite competent amplifiers using outrageous raw materials and hawk
> them at insane prices using industry-strength flim-flam.
> 
> When I say "indystry-strength flim-flam" I mean it.
> 
> At one time they had a role of teflon foil stored next to a resarch
> nuclear reactor for some weeks, so that the "neutrons could equalize
> the the tension in the micro-grid structure" before it got rolled 
> into capacitors with a gold foil with similar super-natural properties.
> 
> Often the invariably "very serious buyer" will persuade them, in
> return for a stiff compensation, to never build any more, and refuse
> to ever talk abut it, so he can (also) brag about having the only
> one ever made, and make up some flim-flam about why that is so
> ("... but that reactor is closed now, and the guy who knew how to
> reorient the rolls is dead.")
> 
> Then they rinse & repeat, this time with capacitors wound by virgins
> from some tropical island or whatever.
> 
> The fact that the socalled "NFT" market has negatively impacted the
> "high end audio" market recently tells you everything you need to
> know about both of them.
> 
> So the question we are really being asked here, is what which
> OCXO can be flim-flam'ed the most, when it becomes another dose
> of audio-homoepathy.
> 
> Poul-Henning
> 
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