[time-nuts] Re: High precision OCXO supplier for end costomers

[Andrew Kalman]

FYI, I contacted MTI a few years ago for some replacement 10MHz OCXO, and
their minimum buy was 5 pcs.

--Andrew

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Andrew E. Kalman, Ph.D.


On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 12:46 PM Bob kb8tq <kb8tq at n1k.org> wrote:

> Hi
>
> Ok, well, the boys at Rakon / CEPE will be happy to sell you a ~ $30,000
> OCXO
> with a lead time of about 2 years. I suspect you will have to pay at time
> of order
> unless you are a well known business …. Unlike a lot of this and that you
> see
> tossed around for specs, I’m quite sure they *do* meet their published
> numbers.
>
> The only thing I’m not 100% sure of is if the minimum order quantity is
> 1,3,5 or
> 10. If cost is no object, that should not really matter.
>
> Bob
>
> > On Jan 10, 2022, at 3:06 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk at phk.freebsd.dk>
> wrote:
> >
> > --------
> > Bob kb8tq writes:
> >
> >> My only concern here is that before one goes of and spends 5,10, or
> >> 20 thousand dollars on an OCXO, [...]
> >
> > Bob, you are kind of missing the point here...
> >
> > The entire point of Audio-Homoepathy is to spend excessive amounts
> > of money, so that you can brag about how rich you are, and how
> > super-human your refined sense of hearing is, all without wasting
> > any time or effort on it.
> >
> > How else can there be a market for $3000 CAT-6 ethernet cables ?
> >
> > It is Audio-Homoepathy, because the crucial feature is "orders of
> magnitude".
> >
> > They do not buy a slightly expensive ethernet cable, they buy one
> > which cost several orders of magnitude more than what it is worth,
> > so that nobody can doubt that money is no issue - and thereby
> > make the money the only real point.
> >
> > I know several people who are quite comfortable parting these
> > newly-rich from their money, and I cannot really fault them...
> >
> > One of those companies have a business model where they hand-build
> > quite competent amplifiers using outrageous raw materials and hawk
> > them at insane prices using industry-strength flim-flam.
> >
> > When I say "indystry-strength flim-flam" I mean it.
> >
> > At one time they had a role of teflon foil stored next to a resarch
> > nuclear reactor for some weeks, so that the "neutrons could equalize
> > the the tension in the micro-grid structure" before it got rolled
> > into capacitors with a gold foil with similar super-natural properties.
> >
> > Often the invariably "very serious buyer" will persuade them, in
> > return for a stiff compensation, to never build any more, and refuse
> > to ever talk abut it, so he can (also) brag about having the only
> > one ever made, and make up some flim-flam about why that is so
> > ("... but that reactor is closed now, and the guy who knew how to
> > reorient the rolls is dead.")
> >
> > Then they rinse & repeat, this time with capacitors wound by virgins
> > from some tropical island or whatever.
> >
> > The fact that the socalled "NFT" market has negatively impacted the
> > "high end audio" market recently tells you everything you need to
> > know about both of them.
> >
> > So the question we are really being asked here, is what which
> > OCXO can be flim-flam'ed the most, when it becomes another dose
> > of audio-homoepathy.
> >
> > Poul-Henning
> >
> > --
> > Poul-Henning Kamp       | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20
> > phk at FreeBSD.ORG         | TCP/IP since RFC 956
> > FreeBSD committer       | BSD since 4.3-tahoe
> > Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by
> incompetence.
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