[time-nuts] Re: Characterizing a 100M TCXO
ghf at hoffmann-hochfrequenz.de
ghf at hoffmann-hochfrequenz.de
Sat Mar 25 17:11:02 UTC 2023
Am 2023-03-24 22:00, schrieb Christophe Huygens via time-nuts:
> I need some help in
> characterizing a 100MHz TCXO (Crystek CVHD-950) which we used before
> as a reference for a microwave PLL (ham project, see DUBUS 1/21). It
> worked
> good from a PN perspective but uses multiple steps to get to the
> GPS-locked
> 100MHz used as the final reference.
>
> I am trying to see if there is merit in locking the Crystek directly
> and therefore
> would like to assess its short term time stability. We intend to make a
> bunch
> of the above and simple is better here.
I've made a takeout from my 432 MHz -> 32 MHz transverter published in
DUBUS 2 or 3
2022. It is just the ECS 100 MHz xtal oven, PLL to lock it to 10 MHz and
further
multiplier to 300 or 400 MHz. My GPS delivers 10 MHz. I simply take the
interesting
LVCMOS harmonic and dump it into a SAW or LC filter. There seem to be no
SAWs for 300 MHz.
<
https://www.digikey.de/de/products/filter/oszillatoren/172?s=N4IgTCBcDaIKYGMDOACRB7BKwFYwQF0BfIA
>
The 10->100 MHz PLL is 4046 + 74LVC161 1/10 divider. The 9046 is not
available.
With a low enough filter corner, PN depends on the XO only.
I asked ECS for the phase noise plots of their 100 MHz oven and got them
with
no NDA attached, so here it is. I think the layout can accommodate the
CVHD-950
but this has never been tested. The entire takeout has not yet seen
solder.
300 MHz is a more lucky choice WRT amplitude than 400. The oven already
delivers
LVCMOS so there is not much to be lost by further buffering. 300/400 MHz
happen to
be the fastest clock frequencies for the LMX2594 synthesizer in
fractional/integer
mode.
> 2. How do I go about for 100MHz measurements? Is frequency ok - it
> probably
> will be for the Crystek? Or do I have to divide (MSI? prescaler? what s
> today's
My LVC161 prescaler created some spurs at frequencies one would never
expect.
That's why it has it's own small house now.
I'm building stereo downconverters for my Timepod @100 MHz and X-band,
but
day-time work takes precedence and my VNA is ill.
A few empty boards, Gerbers or Altium Designer files are available.
Outside EU, Gerber files for JLCPCB will be less ado than a leftover
board.
regards,
Gerhard DK4XP
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