[time-nuts] Loran?

[Alan Melia]

Hi Rob no we invented "RDF" (or Radio Location)and they called it Radar :-))
Alan G3NYK

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From: "Rob Kimberley" <rk at timing-consultants.com>
To: "'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'"
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Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 9:51 PM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Loran?


> I there was me thinking that we invented RADAR......
>
> Rob (in UK) Kimberley
>
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> Behalf Of David McGaw
> Sent: 20 December 2010 8:49 PM
> To: jfor at quik.com; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Loran?
>
>    As written in Wikipedia and as I have always understood:  "The term
>    RADAR was coined in 1940 by the [1]U.S. Navy as an [2]acronym for radio
>    detection and ranging."
>    David
>    At 01:04 PM 12/20/2010, you wrote:
>
>      IMO this trend is a two edged sword:
>      I don't like to see the historical aspect of the name lost by it
>      becomming
>      a lower-case noun.
>      OTOH, it's been said that the ultimate tribute in Physics is to
>      become
>      "part of the furniture", like Newton's or Maxwell's Laws.
>      FWIW,
>      -John
>      ===============
>      > The Oxford dictionary has "radar", "loran" and "scuba" all listed
>      in lower
>      > case.
>      >
>      > Also according to them "radar" never was an acronym.  It is a
>      coined
>      > word.  Technically to be an acronym the it must be spelled by the
>      > first letter of several other words.  "SCUBA" is an acronym but
>      > "scuba" is now a common English word that has displaced the old
>      1950's
>      > vintage "SCUBA" in modern usage.  But "radar" was never an
>      acronym.
>      >
>      > The Oxford English Dictionary takes the view that the  English
>      > language changes  with time.    You can disagree.  Many people do
>      and
>      > claim English has fixed rules that never change but if you do then
>      you
>      > will have to pick a date for when it was "correct" and then
>      explain
>      > how it could be incorrect before that date.
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      > On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 7:07 AM, paul swed <paulswedb at gmail.com>
>      wrote:
>      >> Indeed. But thats the way it goes.
>      >>
>      >> On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 12:52 PM, J. Forster <jfor at quik.com>
>      wrote:
>      >>
>      >>> There ain't no such thing as Loran. It's LORAN, just like RADAR.
>      >>>
>      >>> They are BOTH acronyms.
>      >>>
>      >>> -John
>      >>>
>      >>> =================
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>> > There never was a Loran receiver with a keypad.  I am certain
>      he
>      >>> meant
>      >>> > Loran C.  Loran is (was) the common name for the service...
>      But then,
>      >>> > you already knew that, and were just trying to stir things up.
>      >>> >
>      >>> > -Chuck Harris
>      >>> >
>      >>> > Max Robinson wrote:
>      >>> >> He didn't say Loran C he said Loran.  That is the old system
>      that
>      >>> used
>      >>> >> to operate just above the AM broadcast band and took away
>      most of
>      >>> the
>      >>> >> 160 meter ham band. That hasn't been around for decades. I
>      don't
>      >>> think
>      >>> >> there is a version of it operating anywhere in the world.
>      >>> >
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>    1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Navy
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