[time-nuts] Square to sine wave symmetrical conversion
Bob Camp
kb8tq at n1k.org
Tue Jul 28 01:16:54 UTC 2015
Hi
Just so this does not get to ghastly confusing for those trying to follow along:
Vig, John R.; Ferre-Pikal, Eva. S.; Camparo, J. C.; Cutler, L. S.; Maleki, L.; Riley, W. J.; Stein, S. R.; Thomas, C.; Walls, F. L.; White, J. D. (26 March 1999), IEEE Standard Definitions of Physical Quantities for Fundamental Frequency and Time Metrology – Random Instabilities, IEEE, ISBN <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Standard_Book_Number> 0-7381-1754-4 <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:BookSources/0-7381-1754-4>, IEEE Std 1139-1999
On page 2 defines phase noise as:
ℒ(f)=Sφ(f)/2 where the "phase instability" Sφ(f) is the one-sided spectral density of a signal's phase deviation.
(Yes, that’s a bit of cut and paste from Wikipedia. I believe that their citation is correct.)
Put another way, it’s what a phase noise test set measures (HP 3048 or whatever). It’s also the part of the spectral noise (as opposed to AM noise) that goes up
as 20*log(N) when you multiply the signal’s frequency by N.
Phase jitter and cycle jitter are not the same quantity.
Bob
> On Jul 27, 2015, at 1:28 PM, Charles Steinmetz <csteinmetz at yandex.com> wrote:
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> Bob wrote:
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>> In tis case the question is "do you *need* low harmonics in the oscillator
>> stage to get low phase noise?"
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> Note that there are actually two questions. One is WRT the phase noise of the oscillator itself, and the other WRT the phase noise of a system that integrates the oscillator. In particular, even harmonics in the oscillator proper generate additional phase noise in the system when the signal is AC-coupled and/or DC-restored, and when it is fed to a zero-cross detector or other circuit that is sensitive to the symmetry of the waveform.
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> NIST published a paper on this.[1] There is other research describing and quantifying the phenomenon, as well.
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> Best regards,
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> Charles
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> [1] "The Effect of Harmonic Distortion on Phase errors in Frequency Distribution and Synthesis," Walls and Ascarrunz <http://tf.nist.gov/timefreq/general/pdf/1437.pdf>
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