[time-nuts] Phase Detectors/Mixers for DMTD and PN measurements
Bob kb8tq
kb8tq at n1k.org
Wed Dec 11 19:29:07 UTC 2019
Hi
There are some famous name papers showing data taken on the 3048. When
asked about the levels involved, the next question inevitably was - “How many
mixers did you fry running the test?”.
Bob
> On Dec 11, 2019, at 10:54 AM, Richard (Rick) Karlquist <richard at karlquist.com> wrote:
>
>
> The HP 3048A phase noise system has a phase
> detector in the HP 11848A chassis that was
> originally a Watkins-Johnson (the original
> company) M9H. The M9H lives on now sold by
> MaCom Technology Solutions. "Someone" (unknown)
> established that the Mini-Circuits JMS-5H
> is an acceptable substitute, although not
> an exact replacement.
>
> The tradeoff in picking a mixer is the LO
> level. A high LO drive level such as the above
> mixer have, gives higher performance, provided
> you have a driving amplifier that has both the
> necessary output power is itself low phase noise.
> Depending on the test set up, some of the driver
> amplifier phase noise will common mode out.
>
> Also, high drive level mixers have a narrow window
> between high enough drive to operate vs the damage
> level. So a third requirement on the driver
> amplifier is that it's maximum output level is
> less than the damage level. (Don't ask how I
> know this :-). You can always put a pad between the
> drive amplifier and the LO input of the mixer used
> as phase detector to adjust the maximum possible
> drive.
>
> Rick N6RK
>
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