[time-nuts] Salvaged OCXO by ar electronique
Andreas Seltenreich
seltenreich at gmx.de
Thu Apr 30 18:49:54 UTC 2020
Bob kb8tq writes:
> If you have not already spotted a Vref pin on the unit, your magic
> 8V pin may be the Vref for the EFC. It also could be “factory use only /
> do not connect “.
Thanks - I think I did spot such a pin: there's 5.3V suspicuously close
to the tuning input, and wiring a pot to it with the wiper to tune
appears to do the right thing. I guess the 8V will have to remain a
mystery then…
Here is my current best guess in case someone else searches the archives
in the same situation:
+-------------------+
10 MHz sine | o o | 12V --,
1.3Vpp | | | connected to
| micrOSTAR-FB 509 | | supply on PCB
| (top view) | | 250mA…100mA
GND | o o | 12V --^
| |
| |
5V3 out | o |
TUNE | o o | Mystery 8V out, measures open on PCB
+-------------------+
> There are OCXO’s on eBay in the < $30 range that should do about as
> well as what the spec sheet shows for the part you have. The unanswerable
> question is of course “which ones?”. As noted in many posts sorting
> through this and that to find a good part is never easy.
I skimmed the archives in that regard before, but thought I'd get this
DVB-modulator instead - the same price but lots of extra RF critters
(and a too-large-to-be-useful machined aluminum case).
Thanks also for the off-list mail from Tim about what to expect from the
tuning pin. The entire unit actually had a 1PPS-input, but it went into
the FPGA on the digital board. The connections were
+----------+ +----------------+
| RF board | --10MHz--> | digital board | <-- SMA "1-pps"
| w/ OCXO | <---IF---- | w/ 300MHz DAC | <-- rs485
+----------+ +----------------+
rs485--^
So maybe the oven was not disciplined and the digital side just shifted
the IF around to compensate. Both had a PIC controller with a rs485
connection to the outside world though, so something external could have
talked to both and adjust a DAC to the oven, although I didn't spot a
discrete one on the PCB yet.
I don't have a frequency counter in the shack, so I improvised with my
HackRF (0.5ppm-TCXO). To take a closer look at its performance and
tuning it, I'm squaring the OCXO with a 74AC04 and look at a
high-resolution-FFT of the 200th overtone. The FFT-bins are 0.1Hz wide.
Here's a screenshot of the warmup. The screen is 190Hz wide (apparently
gqrx can't draw sensible axis labels for such a high resolution FFT)
http://aurora.npff.co/~andreas/ofen2.jpg (110kB)
I guess this is what the texbooks say a SC-cut warmup curve should look
like. The residual drift is probably the TCXO in the Hackrf: Touching
the HackRF causes dents in the curve while touching the oven doesn't
cause a visible change.
regards,
Andreas
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